RWCNT

So, your argument against me saying his status as a legend doesn't make him morally infallible is what? That I'm suggesting his legendary status automatically makes him morally dubious? That's a bit out of the left field.

If you're grasping at straws you don't have to reply, you know.

MMA-Sportsman

Everybody is talking about Cain and JDS injuries and how that could have affected their performances and fight result. Injuries are relevant issues and somehow they make through to the media and we all comment about it. If nobody discloses anything, we don't have elements to discuss anything. You lose a car race, you'll find smth to explain the bad performance and that could get down to minor details just like in any top sport. To suggest ppl who never been envolved in any scandal, assault, TRT cheating are lying when the're merely speaking their hearts out is beyond me.
So continue to make the odds to sound like reality. That's the way to go.

Who would be morally infallible, kid?
Yep, and all of that, from start to conclusion came from your fantasious mind.
Good. You found application for the expression you learnt the other day from your big brother. See? That's how it feels to have the odds used against you. I bet you learnt that from your big brother.

I'll repeat the quote for the last time. If you still don't get it, so you`re still 9 and buzz off.

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RWCNT

I don't think that they're necessarily lying - maybe the broken spine line gave that impression, but I was really just making a gag. I refer to the statements as "claims" just because we never see any proof of them, so I'll consider them as claims until I do. Whether the injuries they talk about are legit or not doesn't even bother me as much as them talking about them does. I don't like it and I don't think it's a particularly out there view.


Nogueira in this case, obviously. Go on then, explain yourself if I'm not getting this sentence you love repeating so much but can't rephrase or elaborate on. Do you even know what point you were trying to make? I think someone's legendary status shouldn't leave them unquestionable morally, you respond with "Certainly doesn't mean otherwise". There's really only one way to take that.

Oh god, the big brother references, calling me "kid", I'm still 9? You're making entirely too much of the fact that I was 9 in the late 90's. I'm sorry that you're old.

Killz

Ok guys, calm it down

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MMA-Sportsman

That's wrong. We don't have any proof you are not gay, bank robber, drug dealer or a scumbag, so how would you feel someone spreading negative suppositions about your reputation until you could work on showing evidence in your behalf? Do you think that would be fair?

Most "proofs" we have are articles posted by reporters who collected info from camps, fighters themselves, fighters friends, coaches. Most of them are words passed along. What you want? Documents for any sort of declaration? How you pick who to believe who not to believe? Anybody could be lying then. Even forging documents, easy thing to do to, for example, to justify absence from work in a given day.

Do I need to see all the medical record of Cain to accept he was hurt? Do I have to believe Big Nog had an arm broken only when I see it snapping live? No non evident lesion should be accepted then?

Innocent until proven guilty is a principle. To twist it like you are doing is just to be mean on purpose.
This is the very core of the issue you are missing.

Thanks god you are no Judge.

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Woodenhead

Amusing: "half-arsed TD attempt" "flash KO"

I enjoy reading posts of downplayers.

Guy Incognito

Cain is going decemate JDS.

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SideWays222

I dont think the first fight was a fluke cause JDS is the ******* man BUT i think Cain is taking the fight this time around.

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Person i looked up to as a kid. ^^^

BrockfanSilva

This is gonna look like Cain vs Brock I think, except Cain will be taking Brocks roll in this one.

RWCNT

Well, I am an openly gay drug dealing, bank robbing scumbag, so that's pretty much water off a duck's back to me, mate.


Seriously though, you've got what I'm saying wrong here. I don't use "claims" as a synonym for "lies" - we never see proof that these guys are injured pre-fight, so I take it as a claim that may or may not be true, rather than a fact. I've already said that I don't really care if they're telling the truth or not, it pisses me off either way.

Innocent until proven guilty is fine in a court of law but to go around your entire life believing everything people say until you can prove otherwise is just plain naive.