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Voiceless · 11-30-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ClydebankBlitz

Yeah no way he out boxes him, but more "catches him". Like he is rushing the TD with no amazing successes, then he switches to an overhand and has JDS rocked. Might be hopeful but I think everyone will have a lot of respect for JDS' chin after this fight. I have a feeling he'll take some massive shots, Cain will rush for the KO, and JDS will avoid the follow up shots well and recover very quickly. Why am I predictiing this? Fuked if I know.

Yes, no one argues about Dos Santos being the better boxer or even the better fighter overall. So Dos Santos is the favorite in the rematch, no problem with that, but everyone can get caught and Velasquez is not known for pillow hands. Dos Santos got tagged quite a couple of times by the walking heavy bag Roy Nelson.

**MMA-Sportsman** · 11-30-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rabakill

his plan was to get a title shot as soon as possible, and look how it worked out. He'd never have gotten another title shot at 185. You're being a contrarian for absolutely no reason whatsoever, the situation is transparent, who do you have a problem with here that is making you want to argue?

Hard to reply that. Where did you get the impression I had a problem with anyone by asking normal questions to Clyde and giving my point of view about the subject? Clear your mind, bro and review what I said to find there was no attack to no one to suggest what you just wrote.

PS: By the way. You were the one stepping in the question I made to Clyde, so revise who is willing to argue anything.

**TheLyotoLegion** · 11-30-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Voiceless

Yes, no one argues about Dos Santos being the better boxer or even the better fighter overall. So Dos Santos is the favorite in the rematch, no problem with that, but everyone can get caught and Velasquez is not known for pillow hands. Dos Santos got tagged quite a couple of times by the walking heavy bag Roy Nelson.

Funny how things can change, I remember back when people were complaining that Cain had pillow fists after the Kongo and Rothwell fights then he knocked Nogueira into another life time.

The Nelson fight was a war and if anyone hasn't seen it you need to google it instantly, not many could have taken the damage Junior dished out in that one, I don't think Cain could have. That's why I feel confident in Junior if the fight turns into the war everyone wanted in the first fight, Nelson hits hard and Junior took his best.

**No_Mercy** · 11-30-2012, 08:18 PM

I went with JDS a very long time ago, but I also said right after their last bout that I think Cain will take the rematch then JDS complete the series with a rubber match win.

Otherwise if Cain loses...he can literally beat everyone else in the division and that causes some serious problems.

Fricken Overeem. He screwed things up. Guess we'll have to see him pound out Big Foot's head.

**ClydebankBlitz** · 11-30-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Voiceless

Yes, no one argues about Dos Santos being the better boxer or even the better fighter overall. So Dos Santos is the favorite in the rematch, no problem with that, but everyone can get caught and Velasquez is not known for pillow hands. Dos Santos got tagged quite a couple of times by the walking heavy bag Roy Nelson.

Yeah, but Roy doesnt hit light either. I think Cain will really show his striking ability here, but I think JDS will show another level of endurance aswell. It will be JDS endurance which is shown more if he wins, and Cain's striking if it's him. I have a feeling through that Cain catches him like twice, and after failing to do anything the first time, takes it down. The fight eventually ends a contested 3 rounds to 2 for Cain, with JDS outworking with his boxing in the two he wins and Cain landing a big shot or two in two of his with a takedown and control in the other. Who knows though.

MMA-Sportsman, I replied to you anyways if you were wondering.

Lyoto, that fight made me a HUGE Nelson fan, which has since been rebuttled by his terrible personality on TUF. Nelson can take more damage tham maybe anyone else in MMA. I have a feeling he gets KOed by Carwin (dont know why again lmao), but I'd have loved to see him as a Pride fighter against say Nog or Cro Cop.

No_Mercy, agree with everything there. EVERYONE would have wanted to see Overeem Vs JDS now and Cain facing say Carwin with the winner getting the title shot.

**MMA-Sportsman** · 11-30-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ClydebankBlitz

MMA-Sportsman, I replied to you anyways if you were wondering.

I saw that, Clyde and I get your point. Tks.

**ClydebankBlitz** · 11-30-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MMA-Sportsman

I saw that, Clyde and I get your point. Tks.

Although I am biased. When LyotoLegion just mentioned Machida dropping to MW, I was thinking "YES! Then people would know whats up" hahahaha.

MCMAP Wizzard · 11-30-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ClydebankBlitz

Although I am biased. When LyotoLegion just mentioned Machida dropping to MW, I was thinking "YES! Then people would know whats up" hahahaha.

Machida would get unconscioused at MW, dude's been exposed for a while now.

**The Best Around** · 11-30-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ClydebankBlitz

Besides Overeem, who we all know the story about...who deserves a title shot more than Cain in UFC?

Werdum. Brought over Cormier. Even Travis Browne before his last fight. ANYONE. Cain/JDS happened two fights ago and it lasted under 90 seconds on FREE television. Then Cain beat a decent fighter at best, and gets a title shot again. Makes no sense, especially since this fight happened last year on free television, was decisive, and nobody was exactly clamoring for a rematch.