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Old 12-01-2012, 09:07 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Lol ok Cain, whatever you say. He should be happy he was just gifted an extremely undeserving rematch.
He's the number two guy and is better than everyone else. Despite how the first fight went I still believe Cain provides the biggest threat to JDS. Werdum? Browne? Comier? All would lose to JDS. Comier might have a little success with his wrestling but both Cain and JDS smashes all other contenders. Not worth talking about Overeem yet until he starts fighting again.

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I already have great respect for JDS' chin. He is the only man to get hit by Carwin and not fall down. Say what you will about Carwin but he is easily the hardest puncher in the UFC.
Could of sworn there was a thread on here a year or two ago about how Cain is actually the strongest puncher. Could be mistaken.

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Old 12-01-2012, 10:16 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Werdum. Brought over Cormier. Even Travis Browne before his last fight. ANYONE. Cain/JDS happened two fights ago and it lasted under 90 seconds on FREE television. Then Cain beat a decent fighter at best, and gets a title shot again. Makes no sense, especially since this fight happened last year on free television, was decisive, and nobody was exactly clamoring for a rematch.
IN UFC, so Cormier is a no. Travis Browne just got owned by Bigfoot, so I don't get why you'd want him in there over Cain? I think Cain has a lot to bring to the fight that we didnt see since it was a flash KO. Cain smashes Browne into next week. Werdum, maybe could have a case to deserve it, but could use a bigger win under his name recently. I cant remember who he faught last but if I'm right Bigfoot is a lot better than whoever it was.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:28 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Haha I can't believe the hate on here for Cain. Okay he didn't do to well in the first fight, but Cain is a beast and will destroy Jds this time around. Please all remember this post.
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Could of sworn there was a thread on here a year or two ago about how Cain is actually the strongest puncher. Could be mistaken.
Thought I heard about that somewhere too. I think it's the velocity of his punches. It's fairly crisp with good technique. I can hear the snap on the Thai pads. He effed up Brock real good in a matter of seconds and Big Foot. That impressed me the most especially because nobody knew how he would react to a KO loss. Cain is extremely mentally tough, but it really looked like he was a bit nervous fighting in his hometown I believe. He hesitated for that second and I could see that BOMB coming right at his head.

I'd still have to say Overeem and Carwin is ahead of em.

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Haha I can't believe the hate on here for Cain. Okay he didn't do to well in the first fight, but Cain is a beast and will destroy Jds this time around. Please all remember this post.
I don't think it's going to be a massacre. It'll be a war with Cain dragging JDS into unknown territory. These guys fight at such a high pace that it can end quickly. Once JDS touches your chin it's usually over. Once Cain takes you down at this point he can usually get the TKO or really put a hurt on you. His striking has improved.

I'd like to see it go at least three rounds.

Who can beat JDS. Most likely an excellent grappler with high level BJJ, heavy striker, and or wrestler with excellent conditioning. Cain fits this description. Remember I picked JDS the first time.

Cain is going to come out to the center and cut em off. He might do leg kicks again which was an excellent plan in the first fight, but JDS will be prepared and may go for the counter. So I think Cain has to initiate the clinch and immediate take down to wear out JDS. If not, as long as he moves his head and has has guard up he can stand and bang for a minute or so in a round. But without the takedowns it'll be JDS's world.

That's why Cain has to wear down JDS whether it's sapping his energy in the clinch, leg kicking em, taking him down even, or simply staying out of trouble and picking his shots and biding his time. The latter simply isn't Cain's style. So the more I think about it...this fight should be over within three unless it becomes a back and war fight which would be pretty awesome.
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I wish people would shut up with the "one legged" JDS comments.

From everything that's came out afterwards it seems as if both men were baring injuries - as is the case in most MMA fights based on what most fighters say.

It pisses me off how Junior and pretty much all of Black House have an injury to talk about after every fight.
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I wish people would shut up with the "one legged" JDS comments.

From everything that's came out afterwards it seems as if both men were baring injuries - as is the case in most MMA fights based on what most fighters say.

It pisses me off how Junior and pretty much all of Black House have an injury to talk about after every fight.
Junior's not a member of Blackhouse and he was on crutches days before the fight, why are you so salty, breh?
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Haha I can't believe the hate on here for Cain. Okay he didn't do to well in the first fight, but Cain is a beast and will destroy Jds this time around. Please all remember this post.
I try to forget as many of your posts as possible, but I'll put this one aside for safe keeping (aka, when JDS KOs Cain... again).
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IN UFC, so Cormier is a no. Travis Browne just got owned by Bigfoot, so I don't get why you'd want him in there over Cain? I think Cain has a lot to bring to the fight that we didnt see since it was a flash KO. Cain smashes Browne into next week. Werdum, maybe could have a case to deserve it, but could use a bigger win under his name recently. I cant remember who he faught last but if I'm right Bigfoot is a lot better than whoever it was.
Im not saying these guys would fair better against JDS. I am saying at the time that they were more deserving. I will watch UFC 155 because I am a homer for HW title fights. The numbers will struggle. You dont do a rematch of a one-sided contest that was FREE a year ago when the champion didnt even defend his title for two minutes of in-cage time.
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JDS will win. When you look at the first Cain and JDS fight it resembles the BROCK and REEM fight. The shoot, the non take down, the big hit, the end. I hope this time is similar but I have a feeling it will be in the late 3rd or early in the 4th rd this time.
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Im not saying these guys would fair better against JDS. I am saying at the time that they were more deserving. I will watch UFC 155 because I am a homer for HW title fights. The numbers will struggle. You dont do a rematch of a one-sided contest that was FREE a year ago when the champion didnt even defend his title for two minutes of in-cage time.
I dont know shit about if it was free or not, but Cain is the best challenge and there are many unanswered questions after the last fight. No one else is as valid a challenger not named Overeem, so...why the care?
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