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Old 12-02-2012, 06:33 AM   #71 (permalink)
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I think Cain takes the rematch, i've always thought it. I have 1 million credits on it.

I don't think the first fight was a true reflection of the ability of both fighters. No.2 is nowhere near as hyped, I think it will be everything the first wasn't.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:27 AM   #72 (permalink)
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It is an intriguing scenario, with a lot on the line for Velasquez. These two were always going to clash and I always favored JDS, since he entered the UFC I knew he'd hold the gold. Then when they finally meet, he comes out and beats Cain flawlessly... I'm with everyone who says Cain is a phenomenal fighter, but his fight with JDS wasn't competitive, no different to every other of JDS' UFC fights. Outclassed.

Hard to go against JDS in this one. They've both had 9 UFC fights, JDS has a tougher list of opponents, has beaten them more impressively, and Cain is one of them.
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I think Cain takes the rematch, i've always thought it. I have 1 million credits on it.

I don't think the first fight was a true reflection of the ability of both fighters. No.2 is nowhere near as hyped, I think it will be everything the first wasn't.
I'll throw up about a mil on Cain as well even though I picked JDS the first time around. Where do I sign up!

I really feel that this will be a trilogy. I don't think I've seen a #1 and #2 clean out the entire division the way they have before in any division.

Fitch maybe on his rise, but he drew against Penn and got KOed by Hendricks. Cain made a huge comeback against Big Foot.

Everyone after their championship loss has spiralled down.
- Thiago Alves
- Thales Leites
- Demian Maia
- Nate Marquardt
- Travis Lutter
- Patrick Cote
- Chuck Lidell
- Wanderlei Silva
- Matt Serra
- Matt Hughes
- BJ Penn
- Mark Hominick
- Dan Hardy
- Koschek
- Jake Shields
- Kenflo
- Big Daddy Stephens
- Tito Ortiz
- Brock Lesnar forced into retirement possibily his diverticulitis playing a role.

The list is long.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:56 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Cain will end up like Franklin after his second loss to Anderson Silva. There is no point in staying in the division because he will beat up any other contender in the division but a rematch against the Champion is absolutely out of the question. Cain will be forced to move down to LHW.
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:22 PM   #75 (permalink)
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I hadn't realised that he'd left. Never the less, it just seems to me that people associated with BH and the Nog brothers always have injuries or illnesses to complain about after every fight, even if they win. I just think it's scumbagish to disrespect your opponent's efforts by coming out afterwards and talking about your staph infection/rough weight cut/injured leg/broken spine (calling that as Big Nog's next post-fight injury claim btw).

To go into the cage injured and fight on is courageous in my opinion but I think the class of it is completely negated if you make a point of telling the world about it
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I hadn't realised that he'd left. Never the less, it just seems to me that people associated with BH and the Nog brothers always have injuries or illnesses to complain about after every fight, even if they win. I just think it's scumbagish to disrespect your opponent's efforts by coming out afterwards and talking about your staph infection/rough weight cut/injured leg/broken spine (calling that as Big Nog's next post-fight injury claim btw).

To go into the cage injured and fight on is courageous in my opinion but I think the class of it is completely negated if you make a point of telling the world about it
In before. They are outspoken ppl. Nothing to hide. And you just pointed out how honest the declarations are, as they come following victories or losses regardless. You clearly didn't follow Big Nog's career from the begining otherwise you woudn't second guess his statements like that.
Guy is a legendary warrior who respects and is respected by most.

But everyone is entitle to his own opinion, of course.
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I'll throw up about a mil on Cain as well even though I picked JDS the first time around. Where do I sign up!

I really feel that this will be a trilogy. I don't think I've seen a #1 and #2 clean out the entire division the way they have before in any division.

Fitch maybe on his rise, but he drew against Penn and got KOed by Hendricks. Cain made a huge comeback against Big Foot.

Everyone after their championship loss has spiralled down.
- Thiago Alves
- Thales Leites
- Demian Maia
- Nate Marquardt
- Travis Lutter
- Patrick Cote
- Chuck Lidell
- Wanderlei Silva
- Matt Serra
- Matt Hughes
- BJ Penn
- Mark Hominick
- Dan Hardy
- Koschek
- Jake Shields
- Kenflo
- Big Daddy Stephens
- Tito Ortiz
- Brock Lesnar forced into retirement possibily his diverticulitis playing a role.

The list is long.
Cain is hardly on some huge comeback, he took advantage of a dumb decision by Bigfoot and messed him up on the ground, he's had one fight since he was finished in 64 seconds by Junior, he hasn't shown anything that gives me the impression he's gonna beat him. He's probably gonna do better but it's hard to get beat in under 64 seconds to the same guy twice.

Like I've said time and time again. Cain's chance are slim in this, he has two options, shoot for the takedown or fake and try and catch Junior. Junior already showed the entire world Cain isn't on his league when it comes to the stand up and I doubt that has changed in 13 months.

I'm not expecting a war either and I don't know why people have this idea they're tailor made to supply one, if Cain wants to make this war he has to go into the trenches and fight tooth and nail and that's a fight he'll never win against JDS.
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In before. They are outspoken ppl. Nothing to hide. And you just pointed out how honest the declarations are, as they come following victories or losses regardless. You clearly didn't follow Big Nog's career from the begining otherwise you woudn't second guess his statements like that.
Guy is a legendary warrior who respects and is respected by most.

But everyone is entitle to his own opinion, of course.
Life is full of contradictions.
Tell you were injured or sick: Not cool. Not classy.
Middle fingers parade: Very cool. Very classy.
Who said middle fingers are cool or classy?

I didn't follow Big Nog's career from the start. (I was 9 and for some reason the only video shop in my town didn't sell copies of RINGS on VHS, weird I know) What about his many fights would make me any less annoyed by the pointless post-fight injury claims?

That "legendary warrior" stuff is bull anyways, just because someone has a whole mess of fights and a legacy doesn't make them morally infallible.
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