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post #81 of 115 (permalink) Old 12-03-2012, 12:55 AM
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Cain is hardly on some huge comeback, he took advantage of a dumb decision by Bigfoot and messed him up on the ground, he's had one fight since he was finished in 64 seconds by Junior, he hasn't shown anything that gives me the impression he's gonna beat him. He's probably gonna do better but it's hard to get beat in under 64 seconds to the same guy twice.

Like I've said time and time again. Cain's chance are slim in this, he has two options, shoot for the takedown or fake and try and catch Junior. Junior already showed the entire world Cain isn't on his league when it comes to the stand up and I doubt that has changed in 13 months.

I'm not expecting a war either and I don't know why people have this idea they're tailor made to supply one, if Cain wants to make this war he has to go into the trenches and fight tooth and nail and that's a fight he'll never win against JDS.
That fight only lasted 64 seconds.. Cain had one half arsed attempt at a single (I think it was a single, haven't watched in a little while) before he got caught. I don't doubt that Cain can get JDS down.

I also think Cain poses a bigger threat on the feet than most believe, before the KO he was looking good and had outlanded Junior.

I just really think that 64 seconds isn't long enough to judge the two fighters, yeah JDS dropped Cain fiercely, but Cain landed a decent shot on JDS during a combo with a lowkick from memory, as long as both fighters land solid shots, either has the ability to flash KO the other. They are HWs afterall.

Maybe it's fanboyism , but yeah I definitely see Cain dragging JDS to the mat and beating him to a bloody pulp.







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That fight only lasted 64 seconds.. Cain had one half arsed attempt at a single (I think it was a single, haven't watched in a little while) before he got caught. I don't doubt that Cain can get JDS down.

I also think Cain poses a bigger threat on the feet than most believe, before the KO he was looking good and had outlanded Junior.

I just really think that 64 seconds isn't long enough to judge the two fighters, yeah JDS dropped Cain fiercely, but Cain landed a decent shot on JDS during a combo with a lowkick from memory, as long as both fighters land solid shots, either has the ability to flash KO the other. They are HWs afterall.

Maybe it's fanboyism , but yeah I definitely see Cain dragging JDS to the mat and beating him to a bloody pulp.
dude layoff Cains nutts, JDS wasnt even 100% for that fight and laid him out, imagine what he'll do in the rematch. If there was no JDS i would fully support Cain to be the champ but JDS is just a great dude and deserves it.

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dude layoff Cains nutts, JDS wasnt even 100% for that fight and laid him out, imagine what he'll do in the rematch. If there was no JDS i would fully support Cain to be the champ but JDS is just a great dude and deserves it.
Wow, i'm completely blown away by the excellence of your post.

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All I am saying is 64 seconds, they both landed solid shots, if JDS had been on the receiving end of the flash KO would that mean he is the worse of the two? I'm not saying Cain is as good as JDS on the feet, but it's certainly possible for Cain to KO JDS.

I also think Cain can take Junior down, it's not like you saw JDS stuff like 10 of Cain's shots, it was one half arsed shot.

They were both injured, injury has nothing to do with what I am talking about.







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Stylistically, JDS vs Cain reminds me a lot of Chuck vs Randy.

And given the style match-up, Cain CAN beat JDS, but he has to be perfect. He can't make even ONE mistake. JDS can hit and miss because he only needs to make one shot count.

Stylistically, JDS is just a nightmare for Cain, but Cain is obviously still very very good and capable of winning if he doesn't make any mistakes.
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I hate how people on here think Jds can't be taken down, Cain tryed a half as*ed attemp. Cain will get Jds down and he won't get back up. Cain has power in his hands also, to say he didn't Ko Nog is a stupid comment. Cain has only ever gone to the score cards once, to say his win over Silva didn't show anything is just mind blowing, Cain showed he means business and destroyed silva on the floor.

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Stylistically, JDS vs Cain reminds me a lot of Chuck vs Randy.

And given the style match-up, Cain CAN beat JDS, but he has to be perfect. He can't make even ONE mistake. JDS can hit and miss because he only needs to make one shot count.

Stylistically, JDS is just a nightmare for Cain, but Cain is obviously still very very good and capable of winning if he doesn't make any mistakes.
I agree with this post. It does very much remind me of this historic trilogy. Randy had to be flawless to win, yet all Chuck had to do was time a punch when Randy had his hand down for some reason.

It's not that I think Cain can't win, it is just so much easier for JDS to win.
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xRoxaz. You can give your opinions without insulting other members.

Guys, Ive deleted all the posts that quoted the insult so if you had something to add to the thread, other than commenting on that please post again.

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That fight only lasted 64 seconds.. Cain had one half arsed attempt at a single (I think it was a single, haven't watched in a little while) before he got caught. I don't doubt that Cain can get JDS down.

I also think Cain poses a bigger threat on the feet than most believe, before the KO he was looking good and had outlanded Junior.

I just really think that 64 seconds isn't long enough to judge the two fighters, yeah JDS dropped Cain fiercely, but Cain landed a decent shot on JDS during a combo with a lowkick from memory, as long as both fighters land solid shots, either has the ability to flash KO the other. They are HWs afterall.

Maybe it's fanboyism , but yeah I definitely see Cain dragging JDS to the mat and beating him to a bloody pulp.
This. I feel that Cain, besides Overeem, is the biggest threat to JDS as I feel Belfort is to Anderson. In neither fight, we saw any of the elements that could have been brought into them because they were flash knockouts. When they earn their way back up, it makes the second fight all that more interesting.

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I didn't follow Big Nog's career from the start. (I was 9 and for some reason the only video shop in my town didn't sell copies of RINGS on VHS, weird I know) What about his many fights would make me any less annoyed by the pointless post-fight injury claims?
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I hate how people on here think Jds can't be taken down, Cain tryed a half as*ed attemp. Cain will get Jds down and he won't get back up. Cain has power in his hands also, to say he didn't Ko Nog is a stupid comment. Cain has only ever gone to the score cards once, to say his win over Silva didn't show anything is just mind blowing, Cain showed he means business and destroyed silva on the floor.


JDS isn't Bigfoot Silva. If you can't tell the difference, then please stop watching MMA immediately. Cain destroyed a second tier fighter. Good on him. He made his statement. But JDS is the champion, and for good reason. If Cain could destroy him, he would have in their first encounter.

People base their belief that JDS can't be taken down on the fact that he hasn't been taken and/or kept down since coming to the UFC. Cain also failed to take Junior down, regardless of the quality of his attempt. We're basing our beliefs off of empirical evidence. Whereas you're speculating and nothing more.

'Cain will take JDS down and he won't get back up'... and you base this off of what? Cain's taking down a slow and plodding Big Foot? Junior's stuffing of Cain's takedown attempt? Junior's KO of Cain? You base it off of absolutely nothing, and yet you have the balls to call out anyone who thinks that Junior will be able to stave off Cain's takedowns? Cool story, bro.
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