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Old 11-30-2012, 06:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Semantics (run on sentence time) he got the title shot but was removed from the title fight that didn't happen anyways because GSP was injured and then he lost the interim fight to Condit but he still got suspended so he wasn't going to fight for the title in a year.
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Bisping I absolutely believe would smash Rockhold. I don't get the hate the guy gets, everyone swung from Bispings sack when he was but a lower mid tier fighter and somewhere between then and now it became the in thing to bury him as a fighter. Problem is that Bisping has actually became a damn good fighter since then and is a legit top 5 MW IMO. Will he ever be champ? Likely not but don't kid yourself there isn't a MW outside the UFC he would not smash.
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you have got to be kidding me this sounds like something charlie z would do.

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I think it's conditional, but I would be okay with that in light of the Weidman injury. But see he didn't stop at that he also wants to be the interim middle champion and the Strikeforce champion. If he ever did get a title shot I'm sure he'll insist on being inducting into the Hall of Fame first.



Yes it could be banter but I see it more as pathetic and a transparent attempt at running down people who didn't take years to beat a top ten MW.



Diaz didn't get an instant shot, he fought BJ Penn then he fought Condit for an interim belt. Though it's fairly clear that the SF HW (both of them), LHW, WW, and LW champions are all in the title mix. But the MW guy, that guy should just be happy to have a job.

Bisping maybe a douche but the fact that every horrible attention seeking annoying thing he does elicits apologists is getting crazy.
I dont agree with him being the interim champion, but I'm assuming it was an interview where they mentioned Anderson not fighting again for a considerable amount of time. Also, I didnt know Wiedman got injured, but I dont care. Weidman beating Boetsch wouldnt be anywhere near Bisping beating Belfort, and Stann is better than Munoz.

Also, who the fuk cares how long it takes to be a top 10 fighter? He's a top 5 now, and thats all that matters. He's running down someone who hasnt been in the UFC and he sees as a threat to taking his title oppertunity (and a non fight threat).

Diaz did get an immediate title shot. He no showed a press conferance and got removed from it, but Bisping fears that Rockhold could get the same treatment and Bisping doesnt need to fight Rockhold and waste his own time. Im sure Bisping and every other MW wants Anderson more than the belt. This is the chance to topple the greatest. When he retires, thats cool, and if they lose it doesnt hurt their rep cause everyone knows that the next champ after Spider retires wouldnt beat him, but every MW wants the best of all time while they can, so Count doesnt want to waste time facing Rockholds when he can have contendership fights like Belfort.

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I kind of expect the same. Belfort is an animal. When people said he was washed up and Jones beat an old man, I thought it was crazy. Belfort might just be the best MW without Anderson. I could give him the edge against ANYONE at MW not holding the belt, and with Bisping's chin being slightly weak, as shown by the rock in the Stann fight, I think that Belfort will catch him at some point and that will lead to the end. Hope Bisping can pull through though. I still think it's a joke that Weidman got Tim and Bisping got Vitor. Bisping should have got Weidman right there and not gave Chris the free ride anymore.
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you have got to be kidding me this sounds like something charlie z would do.

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I dont agree with him being the interim champion, but I'm assuming it was an interview where they mentioned Anderson not fighting again for a considerable amount of time. Also, I didnt know Wiedman got injured, but I dont care. Weidman beating Boetsch wouldnt be anywhere near Bisping beating Belfort, and Stann is better than Munoz.

Also, who the fuk cares how long it takes to be a top 10 fighter? He's a top 5 now, and thats all that matters. He's running down someone who hasnt been in the UFC and he sees as a threat to taking his title oppertunity (and a non fight threat).

Diaz did get an immediate title shot. He no showed a press conferance and got removed from it, but Bisping fears that Rockhold could get the same treatment and Bisping doesnt need to fight Rockhold and waste his own time. Im sure Bisping and every other MW wants Anderson more than the belt. This is the chance to topple the greatest. When he retires, thats cool, and if they lose it doesnt hurt their rep cause everyone knows that the next champ after Spider retires wouldnt beat him, but every MW wants the best of all time while they can, so Count doesnt want to waste time facing Rockholds when he can have contendership fights like Belfort.



I kind of expect the same. Belfort is an animal. When people said he was washed up and Jones beat an old man, I thought it was crazy. Belfort might just be the best MW without Anderson. I could give him the edge against ANYONE at MW not holding the belt, and with Bisping's chin being slightly weak, as shown by the rock in the Stann fight, I think that Belfort will catch him at some point and that will lead to the end. Hope Bisping can pull through though. I still think it's a joke that Weidman got Tim and Bisping got Vitor. Bisping should have got Weidman right there and not gave Chris the free ride anymore.
I don't think Vitor is the number 2 Middleweight, I think Weidman has a style that can give him(and Anderson) problems because Vitor seems to have a problem with wrestlers and Weidman's already exceptional top game is only gonna get better but I had him beating Belcher whose a good fighter and I have him beating Bisping.

For me, the Middleweight division falls in three pieces

Anderson - Champ

Weidman and Vitor - threats, Weidman's ground game is really being overlooked and Vitor is always a threat with his hands.

Everyone else - Okami, Munoz, Bisping, Belcher, Boetsch, Stann, Jacare and Rockhold who I am not sold on at all I thought Jacare was completely robbed and Jacare imo will be the guy who makes the most waves from Strikeforce, his ground game is phenomenal, imo the best of any Middleweight out there except for maybe Roger Gracie who I don't see as an elite fighter yet and his striking is clearly coming along.

I can't wait for Lyoto to come down though once Anderson retires/loses, I truly believe it's only a matter of time.
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I don't think Vitor is the number 2 Middleweight, I think Weidman has a style that can give him(and Anderson) problems because Vitor seems to have a problem with wrestlers and Weidman's already exceptional top game is only gonna get better but I had him beating Belcher whose a good fighter and I have him beating Bisping.

For me, the Middleweight division falls in three pieces

Anderson - Champ

Weidman and Vitor - threats, Weidman's ground game is really being overlooked and Vitor is always a threat with his hands.

Everyone else - Okami, Munoz, Bisping, Belcher, Boetsch, Stann, Jacare and Rockhold who I am not sold on at all I thought Jacare was completely robbed and Jacare imo will be the guy who makes the most waves from Strikeforce, his ground game is phenomenal, imo the best of any Middleweight out there except for maybe Roger Gracie who I don't see as an elite fighter yet and his striking is clearly coming along.

I can't wait for Lyoto to come down though once Anderson retires/loses, I truly believe it's only a matter of time.
I'm not going to start on Weidman again, as everyone knows I think he's completley overrated on this forum. Belfort postes the biggest threat to Anderson to me. The flash KO is one thing, but I still think Vitor is an animal at MW and although Anderson has the reach and height, he doesnt use it like Jones and it would still be a crazy interesting fight. Weidman hasn't beaten anybody to note for me, and thats why he isnt number 2 in my eyes. If he beat Bisping or Belfort he would be, but I think to this point Bisping has proved himself a few times, and with the biggest test of his career ahead of him, if he somehow pulls it off he completley eclipses everything Weidman has achieved and done way more than enough to define himself as the number 1 challenger. If Belfort wins, I'd be happy enough to see Weidman get a crack at Anderson if GSP is continuing to pusy out.
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Ofcourse you think Bisping is the better fighter because he's from England and most of you are homers. Which is fine, but...

He's been in the top ten for 3/4 years in which case he's gone 1-3 against top ten fighters. He finally beats Brian Stann and he's now ready to fight for a title? The thing is I want to not trash Bisping I really do but when you lose a round to Jason f'n Miller and you need to cheat to beat Jorge Rivera I can't I just can't.

People say Weidman hasn't earned it, wins over Boetsch, Maia, and Munoz should get you a title shot. Especially when you consider he didn't lose a round Jason Miller, he doesn't screw up in fights that cause point deductions, he hasn't lost a fight.

The guy ran down Henderson, Sonnen, Rockhold, and Weidman, now I don't know if all four guys can beat him but he's 0-2 and I don't see him "smashing" ie finishing either Rockhold or Weidman.

I'd love for him to fight Anderson Silva, so I personally don't have to see these trumped up main events with Bisping and deal with the drama from his fans.

Ultimately I wish I could walk away from these threads but unlike Bisping I'm not shameless.
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Ofcourse you think Bisping is the better fighter because he's from England and most of you are homers. Which is fine, but...

He's been in the top ten for 3/4 years in which case he's gone 1-3 against top ten fighters. He finally beats Brian Stann and he's now ready to fight for a title? The thing is I want to not trash Bisping I really do but when you lose a round to Jason f'n Miller and you need to cheat to beat Jorge Rivera I can't I just can't.

People say Weidman hasn't earned it, wins over Boetsch, Maia, and Munoz should get you a title shot. Especially when you consider he didn't lose a round Jason Miller, he doesn't screw up in fights that cause point deductions, he hasn't lost a fight.

The guy ran down Henderson, Sonnen, Rockhold, and Weidman, now I don't know if all four guys can beat him but he's 0-2 and I don't see him "smashing" ie finishing either Rockhold or Weidman.

I'd love for him to fight Anderson Silva, so I personally don't have to see these trumped up main events with Bisping and deal with the drama from his fans.

Ultimately I wish I could walk away from these threads but unlike Bisping I'm not shameless.
I feel like Silva/Bisping would go just like Silva/Bonnar, Anderson would stand there, drop his hands and let him hit him, send Bisping into a panic where he spams takedowns and then Anderson would just finish him with a knee or something. No striker is going to beat Anderson unless you get like a Tyrone Spong at 185, he's fought guys with better hands than Bisping like Vitor and he beat them, he's fought better wrestlers in Chael and beat them.

The only time he's been put in danger is against guys who could wrestle him, Chael, Lutter, Henderson. Lutter even mounted him, that is what makes Weidman the most interesting fight for him at 185 and the most dangerous. Bisping is a guy who gets most of his finishes with volume punching or out-wrestles them like he did Stann, he can't use either to beat or even threaten Anderson.
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