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post #71 of 78 (permalink) Old 12-03-2012, 04:20 AM
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It isnt the thread it's self that is Trollish, well, maybe a little, it's the manner in which he is flat out defending his opinion by posting an image in every reply and calling those who disagree 'haterz'.

You have to see how this kind of thread can be considered trolling by some. I think it's a little trollish myself, but im not exactly dishing out trolling infractions left and right as the OP hasnt done any worse than some of the regulars do.

Im actually really surprised this thread made it to 7 pages without needing to be locked.
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It isnt the thread it's self that is Trollish, well, maybe a little, it's the manner in which he is flat out defending his opinion by posting an image in every reply and calling those who disagree 'haterz'.

You have to see how this kind of thread can be considered trolling by some. I think it's a little trollish myself, but im not exactly dishing out trolling infractions left and right as the OP hasnt done any worse than some of the regulars do.

Im actually really surprised this thread made it to 7 pages without needing to be locked.
I think his Name and Avy make him seem more of a troll then he really is. "The bad guy 13" and a typical douche "Look at me i smoke weed" avy that loser stoners would have as their facebook pic. (Im not saying that Stoners are losers but there are alot of losers that are stoners.)
You add that with some of his posts and he comes off as a troll.

But when i think about it some more it just seems like he might be kind of new to using Forums. People that dont use forums often tend to have a different way of carrying themselves.

Anyway sorry for taking a left turn there.


JDS would destroy Jones that we currently have. Maybe if i see Jones with 30-40 pounds more of muscle i would change my opinion. We forget how new Jones is to MMA and in 3-4 years i could certainly see him being a much bigger threat to JDS.

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and if you read at the beginning i said if jds does manage to land something jj could easily backpedal to safety.
Don't want to keep harping on about this like I do in every Condit/Diaz thread, but there is a difference between 're-setting' 'back-pedaling' 'circling out' etc and straight up turning your back and sprinting in the opposite direction. Once you turn your back, you are explicitly stating that you aren`t interested in fighting your way out of this position and you`re just going to make a run for it.

The first three are fighting techniques used to create space and counter strike.

The last one is what you do when you've lost a fight and your 'flight' instinct kicks in. Lets not forget that turning you back on your opponent is also very dangerous and certainly isn`t intelligently defending yourself as evidence by Yves Edwards` KO on Josh Thompson back in the day when Thompson got out of the clinch and tried to walk away with his back turned and got kicked in the back of the head.

In my humble opinion, turning your back like that is the definition of 'timidity' which is and always has been a foul under the unified rules of MMA. Thompson obviously has the excuse that he was getting absolutely mugged at the time and didn`t really have the time to turn around anyway. I`m more using that example to show how dangerous having your back turned to your opponent is.

It's the same reason they have a shot clock in basketball, have a turnover on downs in football, the goalie is only allowed to hold the ball for 6 seconds in soccer and on, and on, and on. It's because simply getting up on points and then just stalling or playing `keep away` until the time runs out isn't in the spirit of the game. Of any game.

In PRIDE they had yellow cards for this type of behavior which cost you money from your purse (you could even be disqualified!), but under the unified rules of MMA the only time I`ve seen a referee properly employ the `timidity` foul was when Nick Serra refused to come up off his back during a fight and basically refused to fight unless his opponent would politely come and lie down in his guard.

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]I think his Name and Avy make him seem more of a troll then he really is. "The bad guy 13" and a typical douche "Look at me i smoke weed"[/B] avy that loser stoners would have as their facebook pic. (Im not saying that Stoners are losers but there are alot of losers that are stoners.)
You add that with some of his posts and he comes off as a troll.

But when i think about it some more it just seems like he might be kind of new to using Forums. People that dont use forums often tend to have a different way of carrying themselves.

Anyway sorry for taking a left turn there.


JDS would destroy Jones that we currently have. Maybe if i see Jones with 30-40 pounds more of muscle i would change my opinion. We forget how new Jones is to MMA and in 3-4 years i could certainly see him being a much bigger threat to JDS.

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Take my word for it... 222 wasnt my first choice or second. Its something i down right hate about this account. But im stuck with it so i deal. Im used to using the same username for EVERYTHING and then this account is different and it drives me nuts.

Now whats your excuse??? 13 have some kind of special meaning??? That might be okay then.

I am actually really curious why you chose the number 13.

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Keep the discussion around the original topic or this thread is done. Don't like the thread, leave and don't look back. Also personal matters should go to PM.

At this point i see JDS KO'ing Jones. Who knows what's in store for Jones though. How's he going to adapt a new weight class? How much would he pack on and how would it affect him? But yeah, the LHW Jones get's put down imo.

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simply disagree.. if it was true, jones would get 1-2 fights at hw.. but he doesnt! and he thinks wise if you ask me..
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I'd Imagine Jones will dip his toe into the HW division a few times over the coming years before he goes up permanently. PRetty much like Anderson did with the LHW division.

Expect Jones to continue defending his LHW belt whilst occasionally going up to HW to fight mid-low level guys.

It's gonna be a looooong time til Jones fights JDS, if ever.
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