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Old 12-21-2012, 02:37 AM   #61 (permalink)
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He did beat an old past the hill Couture to get the title, then defended against Mir (which from his debut) proved a desirable match-up. Then nearly lost his next to someone who had never went past the first round and only lost due to gassing. He wasn't ever anything special. When he fought against people that that were his size and more skilled he got dominated! He had no legacy and really wasn't ever that good, he just used his considerable size advantage to win a couple fights. I quite frankly I'm happy to see him go cause he wasn't that good, and only provided (what Dana called) freak show match ups against lesser or underweight fighters.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:34 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Nope. Don't miss him at all, and this is coming from someone who is and was a fan of a lot of his work in the UFC.

I'm not a Brock hater at all.

But the fact is, once someone punched him in his mouth he realized real quick he didn't want to be a UFC fighter. His next few fights after that were him collecting a pay check and surrendering the moment someone stood up to him.

Given that is pretty much indisputable, there's nothing to miss. He was what he was. He came in, he did some things, he had some exciting fights, then he wilted, then he caved, now he's gone.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:54 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I don't think he wants to fight overeem again. although i'd love to see it!
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:08 PM   #64 (permalink)
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He was fun while he was here, I enjoyed his fights, I think he pretty much had ran his course when he lost to seem, I kinda miss him I guess but I dont think he had much left to keep me interested..
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:55 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Don't miss him at all.

He was highly over-rated, and happened to come into the UFC when the HW division was in shambles, and was able to win the belt because of his size and wrestling. If he came in the UFC now (or even 1 year ago), he wouldn't win the belt. He just doesn't have the skill level to compete at the top level of the sport.

If his career wasn't fast tracked by Dana he may have never won the belt either. Once the blueprint on Brock was known (that he doesn't react well to being hit), his career went downhill pretty quick. If he had to take a few more fights on his way up, that blueprint may have come out a lot sooner than it did. Brock was able to use his size and wrestling over physically weaker and smaller opponents at the start of his career. Once he started fighting bigger guys that could stop his takedowns and he had to stand (Carwin, Velasquez, Overeem) it was clear how bad his stand-up was.

He never deserved his title shot, and while recently we've seen a number of undeserved title shots, I don't recall nearly as many back in the "pre-UFC 100" days. Mir beat Lesnar at UFC 81 vis submission. Lesnar beat Herring at 87, and gets a title shot at 91, while Mir was sidelined from his win at 81 until 92 -- the event after Lesnar was basically handed the title from an aging Couture.

Beyond that, I just don't like his personality. He's cocky, thought he was better than everyone, and was a sore loser. I thought his UFC 100 interview was bad for the sport, and just found him to be a genrally unlikeable guy.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:19 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Brock was a beast before diverticulitis, and that ruined his career, he was never the same after it.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:34 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I don't think he wants to fight overeem again. although i'd love to see it!
irewatched the overeem and cain fight.
cain really manhandled him. beatdown.
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