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Old 12-06-2012, 06:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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1) It dilutes the cards when you add a bunch of little boys and women.

2) There aren't enough fighters to make a division that means anything.

3) Women suck at fighting. All of them.

4) They are taking up roster spots/payroll that could be used on others.

5) Many viewers don't want to watch two people fight that they feel they could beat themselves (delusional or not).

6) I don't care who the best fighter who weighs 125 pounds any more than I care about the best basketball player under 5'6" or the smartest retarded person is.

7) Obviously the crowds don't like the flyweights. They booed the title fight FFS.
So you basically dislike them because they're small? Whatever sails your boat I guess.
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And why are people not interested in it? That's what I can't figure out

You like fights don't you? Well, isn't Women's MMA fights? Everybody says they dislike it and they won't watch it, yet they never explain why. If you like MMA yet you won't watch Women's MMA, why it is that is stopping you from watching it?

Life Be Ez just said he likes Ronda yet for some reason he's compared a card with a title fight, Lyoto Machida vs. Dan Henderson, and Urijah Faber on it to a card that was basically a TUF Finale. I'm not taking a shot at him I'm just wondering why he feels this way and why people constantly put it down yet they never explain why.

I really can't figure out, if you like MMA you should be open to Women's MMA, it's not like the WNBA where the girls can't dunk or play like the Clippers.
It is like the WNBA. Is Liz Carmouche a full time fighter? Or part time? That is worse than the WNBA. At least all those girls are full time players.

I didn't grow into this sport watching women The division is shallow at best. They aren't as quick, aren't as technical, aren't as good of wrestlers, aren't as well versed in BJJ. The ones who are good in an area are usually poor in another. Ronda is the champ by far yet I would guess is a novice striker.

The only girl with elite credentials in Ronda with her Judo. And guess what? We all love her and are interested in her. WMMA is far behind. Much like the 125lb Men's class but 20x worse. It has few legit, full time fighters.

Will I avoid it like the plague? No. But I'm not interested in it. Just like I'm not interested in new hip hop music. Or soccer(football). Or tennis. Or womens basketball, golf, or hockey.

Do you need a reason why I don't care for those things? Or is me telling you that they don't interest me enough?
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I love LL some times. Whenever I say I dint care about women's mma he attacks my knowledge of the sport. I've spent the better half of my life training myself and training with some of the best people on the planet yet all I care about is blood and finishes because I don't care about women's mma.

Minot going to spend time trying to explain why I dislike it because it doesn't matter what I say.

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So those two are going to be main eventing a show that has freaking Hendo vs Machida, and Faber vs Menjivar? That is pretty impressive, if all those fights hold up it sounds like a fun event we have to wait a few months for.
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So you basically dislike them because they're small? Whatever sails your boat I guess.
Aldo is small. 125 is smaller than most junior high kids.

Would you be in favor of a 115 lb division? 105? 95? Or how about we add a full gambit of divisions for the women. Why shouldn't a women too small/big to fight Rousey get a chance? How about we add a few "special" divisions for those amongst us who are physically and/or mentally impaired. MMA for dogs? Cats? Why not. A true MMA fan would watch.

The point I'm trying to make is that you have to draw the line somewhere. I draw it firmly on this side of pretending that women's MMA is a good idea.
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Dana White has lost it, does he not care that MMA is losing its stature as a legitimate sport to the mainstream because of his antics? Edgar loses title fight, fights for FW Title next. Sonnen loses title fight, fights for LHW title next. Diaz loses title fight, fights for WW title next. And then he thinks its a good idea to have Rousey headline a UFC PPV Event as her first fight in the UFC?! No test fight on FOX or FX? He is really losing me here...

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Aldo is small. 125 is smaller than most junior high kids.

Would you be in favor of a 115 lb division? 105? 95? Or how about we add a full gambit of divisions for the women. Why shouldn't a women too small/big to fight Rousey get a chance? How about we add a few "special" divisions for those amongst us who are physically and/or mentally impaired. MMA for dogs? Cats? Why not. A true MMA fan would watch.

The point I'm trying to make is that you have to draw the line somewhere. I draw it firmly on this side of pretending that women's MMA is a good idea.
I think that women's MMA is a good idea, just not in the UFC right now. Keep that in smaller orgs until there's a much larger skill range and roster range.

Right now I know literally 2 female MMA fighters, that's it, and they aren't even fighting. I've been into MMA longer than A LOT of people, I know more about the history/sport than many, yet I know - 2 - female MMA fighters. Imagine how much the masses know?

When the female divisoin gets more talent/skill, and I'm not watching 1 decent fighter destroy a bunch of part-time fighters with extremely low skill, and there's enough people in the division to actually matter, then I'll be happy to watch main event PPV like this.

Until then, I have 0 interest watching an average fighter at best when compared to other divisions in the UFC (Ronda) beating up part-time skillless fighters that shouldn't even be doing this until they train more.
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This is huge news, the first openly gay UFC fighter and the first females in a main event.
Who's gay? Ivan menjivar?
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Nevermind ordering it now. Liz is going to defend the armbar just enough that Honda has to switch to a triangle.
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