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post #21 of 32 (permalink) Old 12-09-2012, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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Many of the exchanges in this fight were take some to give some, Shogun had success because he of his hard head and fearlessness. I think Machida will try to kick Gus a lot but when he gets close to punch, I can't see him taking too many counters. Which Gustaf WILL land.
The big question is, what does Gus do if he can't land? Remember the Shogun that he fought last night isn't the same guy that beat Machida. Shogun nowadays is just content to brawl and make it a war and his lack of a jab and leg kicks have made that crystal clear, and Thiago Silva...well, we already saw what Lyoto did to him.

I hate to sound like a homer but that Machida that fought Bader was that guy that made Silva look helpless and the guy that knocked out Rashad and he's by far the best guy that Gus would have fought and we already know Machida can get in and get out on long strikers.

The real question is if this fight happens, what does Gus do if he has a problem finding Machida, does he get desperate and rush him? If so, he's asking to be served up a silver platter.

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post #22 of 32 (permalink) Old 12-09-2012, 03:56 PM
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Machida wouldn't KO/TKO Gus.

Shogun hit him HARD multiple times with big overhand rights, and Gus didn't even move. He just kept going like it was a light jab. I never seen anyone take shots like that from Shogun and not even flinch, that was ridiculous.

I can see Machida beating him for sure, but not by KO, I don't see anyone in the division clearly KOing him after last night, that was insane.
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Very interesting fight, both guys have the technique to defeat the other. Gustaf is a very good game planner and adjusts his style of fight to the opponent. Machida has a huge skill advantage but he's got very little in the way of defense. If Gustaf doesn't finish this could be a very bad fight which leads to booing and a split decision.
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Tough fight to call. I give the edge to Machida but wouldn't be surprised if Gus left with the win.
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The big question is, what does Gus do if he can't land? Remember the Shogun that he fought last night isn't the same guy that beat Machida. Shogun nowadays is just content to brawl and make it a war and his lack of a jab and leg kicks have made that crystal clear, and Thiago Silva...well, we already saw what Lyoto did to him.

I hate to sound like a homer but that Machida that fought Bader was that guy that made Silva look helpless and the guy that knocked out Rashad and he's by far the best guy that Gus would have fought and we already know Machida can get in and get out on long strikers.

The real question is if this fight happens, what does Gus do if he has a problem finding Machida, does he get desperate and rush him? If so, he's asking to be served up a silver platter.
Oh I agree, Machida looked better than ever in the Bader fight, I think he's in his prime right now. He's a complex opponent for anyone, but I think Gustafsson has all the tools to impose his game and hurt Lyoto. I'm sure it'll be highly competitive while it lasts.

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I'd love to see this fight. You can't really use the Shogun fight as a basis for how Gus would fight Machida he clearly just has that crazed animal mode in him like Shogun and both guys were frenzied and brawling because of it. The most interesting part of this matchup is that Lyoto's style does make him vulnerable to guys with good footwork who can cut off the cage and Gus can do that. That doesn't mean he would win though I think it is a tossup.
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Gustafsson got hit with so many overhand rights by Shogun. If Machida lands a perfect shot, Gustafsson is going down. ( He will. )

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I don't like this fight because it's going to knock out another contender. With Shogun it's fine because Shogun had a helluve war against Hendo, surprisingly against Vera, and of course again last night. The bout against Gustaf already confirmed what I felt...Shogun's tactics simply will not work in a modern era of MMA. His conditioning usually fails em as well. With Machida, he was already given the title shot, unfortunately he didn't take it. If Gustaf wins and moves on to fight the LHW title holder and loses that leaves only Glover cuz both Shogun and Machida were beat by em.

I don't mind the match up all, it's just the timing. If it does happen though I hate to say it, but Gustaf has the edge. He's extremely agile for his size, lanky, accurate, and has powerful striking.

Machida's key is to counter precisely. In fact, both adopt a fairly similar strategy of utilizing movement. I hope Hendo heals up cuz that's a much easier match up to call.

Out of everyone currently in the LHW division Gustaf is a legitimate threat to the throne. If he's shored up his takedown defense and grappling then it'll be a very interesting fight against the LHW title holder.

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good fight, makes sense

another fight where i like both guys

lots of those lately, should be a win for lyoto but not easy

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I would prefer if Gustaffson won because I'm not a real big fan of challengers who get beaten easily in title fights getting a 2nd shot at the champ.
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