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Old 12-09-2012, 07:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I new he was good before the Diaz fight but I didn't know how good he was. He dominated Diaz who was on a role, he was even more dominate then Macdonald was at welterweight over Diaz. Diaz got nothing going at all against him, I'd say hes the best lightweight in the world right now. I had Edgar winning both there fights slightly but they were very close and now that Edgar's down at 145 the only guy who I could see possibly dethroning Henderson at the moment would be Maynard. I think if Henderson meets Pettis again, Henderson will be able to beat him, since there first fight Henderson has looked like a completely different animal.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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He's a great fighter but I can't really say he's a "deserving" champion considering I had him losing the second fight with Frankie. The arsewhooping he put on Nate was hard to watch.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:39 AM   #13 (permalink)
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"Does Benson Henderson get enough respect as Champion"

After this fight I'm sure he does.
this....

i guess jim millers stock just dropped abit more too
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He beat a Diaz brother fair and square without having to resort to dirty tricks. He has my respect as a fighter.

But the second someone identifies them self as a Christian, Mulsim or Jew I just feel sorry for them. Same way I would if someone told me they were a Zoroastrian.

When you make your religion a large part of your 'character' in the UFC you have to expect a good chunk of the population to write you off as a wackjob. Loads of guys are christians, they don't have to make it the central thrust of everything they say when a microphone gets put in front of them.

But hey, he can do what he likes. It's his life.

I don't think anyone has a real reason to disrespect his ability to win fights.

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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He beat a Diaz brother fair and square without having to resort to dirty tricks. He has my respect as a fighter.

But the second someone identifies them self as a Christian, Mulsim or Jew I just feel sorry for them. Same way I would if someone told me they were a Zoroastrian.

When you make your religion a large part of your 'character' in the UFC you have to expect a good chunk of the population to write you off as a wackjob. Loads of guys are christians, they don't have to make it the central thrust of everything they say when a microphone gets put in front of them.

But hey, he can do what he likes. It's his life.

I don't think anyone has a real reason to disrespect his ability to win fights.
Yeah we get it, you don't have any religious convictions and laugh at the idea of it. Your completely entitled to your opinion just like everyone else is. Same reason someone who has faith would feel sorry for you for being a lost soul. (And no, not me. I'm not overly religious but I'm not a big enough tool to act differently to someone who isn't or is.)

Anyway, Ben absolutely dominated Nate. After the second Frankie fight, he needed to do this to prove to everyone he deserves where he's at right now. I think Pettis beats him in a rematch again, but he's deserving of his belt now in my eyes.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:18 AM   #16 (permalink)
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In answer to the OPs question, I don't think he does. Some of the comments on this thread are evidence to support this. I'll be honest, I always respected him as a fighter, but a champion? No, not really. Not until I saw the Diaz fight that is. Complete domination. I was really really, yes two reallys, impressed with his domination from top position. His sub defence was spot on as usual. I kept jumping off my seat whenever he took Diaz' back hoping for a RNC. Unlikely against Nate but Big Nog did get submitted not too long ago so I'll never rule anything out.

One thing I really don't understand how people can judge Benson on his faith. To me that is the same as judging a fighter on their race, creed, gender or sexuality. Its got F*ck all to do with his ability as a fighter so why even mention it? The dudes a monster at 155 and after the Diaz fight I can proudly say I'm now a Benson fan.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:25 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah, everyone's pretty much on point here. He has had two fights with Frankie... one was close with the slight majority leaning his way... the second was close with the heavy majority leaning towards Frankie.

If he gets a couple more wins like this one, his stock will rise. GSP has proven you don't have to stop the opposition to be considered great, just dominate them.

I also agree that being on the bad end of one of the most famous MMA highlight moments ever courtesy of Showtime has at least a little effect on his stature. If I were Benson, the Pettis rematch would be the absolute top of my to do list.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
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In answer to the OPs question, I don't think he does. Some of the comments on this thread are evidence to support this. I'll be honest, I always respected him as a fighter, but a champion? No, not really. Not until I saw the Diaz fight that is. Complete domination. I was really really, yes two reallys, impressed with his domination from top position. His sub defence was spot on as usual. I kept jumping off my seat whenever he took Diaz' back hoping for a RNC. Unlikely against Nate but Big Nog did get submitted not too long ago so I'll never rule anything out.

One thing I really don't understand how people can judge Benson on his faith. To me that is the same as judging a fighter on their race, creed, gender or sexuality. Its got F*ck all to do with his ability as a fighter so why even mention it? The dudes a monster at 155 and after the Diaz fight I can proudly say I'm now a Benson fan.
Well, imagine another fighter winning and crediting it to his race.

"I would like to thank my white parents for raising me up. All this won't be possible if I ain't white!"

I doubt the people here are unhappy about Benson believing in Jesus. They are unimpressed by him raising the issue of his faith after every fight.

To be back on topic, I respected Benson as a person before the Diaz fight. Didn't think much of him as a champion though. I believe that Edgar definitely won the rematch between them two, and thus I didn't feel Benson deserved the belt around his waist. However, he did put on a very impressive and convincing win over Diaz. If he continues to dominate like he did against Diaz, he would gain my respect as a champion.
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Well, imagine another fighter winning and crediting it to his race.

"I would like to thank my white parents for raising me up. All this won't be possible if I ain't white!"

I doubt the people here are unhappy about Benson believing in Jesus. They are unimpressed by him raising the issue of his faith after every fight.

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I said that I don't understand why people judge him on his faith. Not the fact he praises God after each fight. Thats teo different points. It doesn't affect his ability as a fighter. If there are people who, I'm laughing as I write this, have an issue with Benson thanking God after each fight then they can simply choose not to listen to his post fight interview.

In regards to the bolded part, I wasn't referencing just posters on this forum but fans in general.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:19 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Honestly I don't see what all the controversy on the Henderson/Edgar fights is about. I thought both fights were close especially the first fight (which could have been a draw). The second fight, although close, I thought Ben landed the harder strikes and did the most damage. Frankie might have landed slightly more, but they were largely ineffective pitter patter punches. It could have gone either way, that's why I shrug when people say Frankie was robbed.
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