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Old 12-10-2012, 02:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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There is a difference between punches being throw and giving a ***** you* hand gesture. This is real life and life has rules. You pretty much have to follow those rules. Fox did what they had to do and there is nothing wrong with that. I could care less if they are censoring anything. Im watching a free fight....
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Gotta love Sportsnet! Watching Henderson do the splits like that was ******* hilarious!
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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thats just how it is. You dont throw middle fingers and you dont say F&%$ on tv. Don't blame fox, blame diaz for not being able to conduct himself professionally on national television.
Its ok you can bash the other guys head in and show multiple slowmotion shots of someone getting brutally knocked out as long as nobody swears or shows tits on tv. thats were americans draw the line
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You gotta love the 2-faced or 2-sided elements of MMA.

On one side of the grass, you have people in the UFC, as well as fans who are trying to market MMA as an athletic competition, a professional sport (be it a combat sport).

Then on the other side of the grass you have people who complain and claim it's a cage fight, or as the OP put it "two guys in a cage trying to physically destroy their opponent by KO, Submission, any way possible and that's all well and good. But oh no, someone displays the middle finger, we can't have that!"

Which is it? A professional sport, or something that resembles a back alley brawl?

What were people expecting when the UFC signed with Fox, and agreed to primetime cable TV shows? If this was late night television that would be one thing, but this is on at 8pm-10pm when kids are still up.

Look at what happened in the NFL a few weeks ago when the ref left his microphone on, and let out a "god dammit". He got fined. If the TV stations were operating on a tape delay they would have cut that out. You just don't do some things on network television, even if it's during a MMA fight.

Beyond that - would it kill the Diaz brothers to not act like f*cking idiots for 1 fight (i.e. from the time the fight is announced, to the completion of the fight)? There's ways to be a "heel" or get underneath somebody's skin without acting like a child.

Those two tools aren't even worth the money they bring to the UFC if you ask me - between the Strikeforce brawl, the GSP/Nick Diaz episode, drug suspensions and this, they are just a disaster waiting to happen. Somebody like Sonnen does what he does for fun, as an act. Underneath it all he's a pretty classy guy. These guys are the definition of everything I would never want my kids to be. They have no class, and they aren't even all that good.

If anything, blame the UFC for putting a Diaz brother on a network television card instead of a PPV where anything goes. Or blame the FCC - the guys at Fox didn't feel like paying a fine to the FCC -- can't really blame them for that. Has very little to do with Fox when you think about it.

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:00 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Watched the fights on Sportsnet so didn't have to put up with any silly censorship.

It's easy as a fan to sit back and say cutting away from offensive gestures is irritating and annoying.

You don't have to deal with the flak from showing the gestures.

However, the reality is FOX is a public network and if Janet Jackson's nipple peaking out for a nanosecond resulted in a flood of complaints you can be sure Nick Diaz flipping off Henderson would have done the same.

If you're an exec at FOX you have to concern yourself with more than just what might annoy some fans I'm afraid.

Politically correct? Yep, but that is the world we live in.
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Its ok you can bash the other guys head in and show multiple slowmotion shots of someone getting brutally knocked out as long as nobody swears or shows tits on tv. thats were americans draw the line
Well one is offensive and one isnt. Punches are part of the sport. Flipping people off and cursing isnt part of the sport.

If i had a son id rather he watch MMA then watch people flipping each other off or cursing at each other.
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You gotta love the 2-faced or 2-sided elements of MMA.

On one side of the grass, you have people in the UFC, as well as fans who are trying to market MMA as an athletic competition, a professional sport (be it a combat sport).

Then on the other side of the grass you have people who complain and claim it's a cage fight, or as the OP put it "two guys in a cage trying to physically destroy their opponent by KO, Submission, any way possible and that's all well and good. But oh no, someone displays the middle finger, we can't have that!"

Which is it? A professional sport, or something that resembles a back alley brawl?

What were people expecting when the UFC signed with Fox, and agreed to primetime cable TV shows? If this was late night television that would be one thing, but this is on at 8pm-10pm when kids are still up.

Look at what happened in the NFL a few weeks ago when the ref left his microphone on, and let out a "god dammit". He got fined. If the TV stations were operating on a tape delay they would have cut that out. You just don't do some things on network television, even if it's during a MMA fight.

Beyond that - would it kill the Diaz brothers to not act like f*cking idiots for 1 fight (i.e. from the time the fight is announced, to the completion of the fight)? There's ways to be a "heel" or get underneath somebody's skin without acting like a child.

Those two tools aren't even worth the money they bring to the UFC if you ask me - between the Strikeforce brawl, the GSP/Nick Diaz episode, drug suspensions and this, they are just a disaster waiting to happen. Somebody like Sonnen does what he does for fun, as an act. Underneath it all he's a pretty classy guy. These guys are the definition of everything I would never want my kids to be. They have no class, and they aren't even all that good.

If anything, blame the UFC for putting a Diaz brother on a network television card instead of a PPV where anything goes. Or blame the FCC - the guys at Fox didn't feel like paying a fine to the FCC -- can't really blame them for that. Has very little to do with Fox when you think about it.
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It is a sport and there is the struggle to make it even more ethical and familiar, yes.
As my standard goes I want to see high quality technical combats between two ethical warriors.
We had some despicable moments during the show with the compliments of Tito, Kos, Brock, but those were moments while these two Diaz freaks are like this 24/7/365.
Wonder that becoming a trend. Can you picture GSP, Cain, JDS, Big Nog, Anderson flipping birds and cursing live from now on?
As I said before, Diaz brothers should never hold gold for the worst example they are for the sport.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:50 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Yea Im not a fan of the job that fox is doing. I think Joe and Goldy do a fantastic job but the other commentators just dont have it. Another thing that kind of annoys me is they play the same d.mn music as the NFL..WTF?
Its still free cant complain too loud!!!!
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:15 AM   #29 (permalink)
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So I'm guessing it wasn't live then? Cuz they couldn't just cut away like that on live TV, it would have had to been filmed and edited, otherwise you'd need some serious anticipation powers and reflexes to just cut at those times.

In either case, for those of you who don't know the network gets fined for instances of vulgarity. Don't quote me on it, but it can cost the network up to $150,000 fine.
This, there would have been a fine if the middle finger were shown.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:44 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I'm not so sure, because I've seen South Park the movie on Comedy Central on regular t.v. and it wasn't censored at all, I've also seen full frontal nudity on MTV once back in the day in the Pyrostarter video "Smack my Bitch Up". @ 2zWhats I also agree they could've at least came up with new intro music besides the NFL on Fox theme song! Lazy Bast*rds!

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