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Old 12-13-2012, 09:58 AM   #21 (permalink)
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He's getting bashed because he's coming off like an absolute toddler. Everyone has acknowledged that it's a raw deal, but so what? As I said, JDS and Carlos Condit were shafted far worse, and everything worked out in the end. He's literally threatening to call it a career (he said he feels like calling it quits) because he might have to wait a few extra months for his title shot. He's being a massive baby. Life doesn't always go according to plan. We've all earned things, only to have them taken away or be told we have to wait a little bit longer. Welcome to the rat race.

And for him to say he doesn't blame the UFC is rubbish. GSP may have asked for the fight, but at the end of the day, Dana said yes. If Dana didn't approve of or want this fight, it wouldn't be happening. You expect me to believe that if GSP had told Dana he wanted to face Chris Cope, Dana would have agreed to it? The UFC calls the shots and if Johnny has a gripe, he can take it up with the organization.

Again, he has every right to be annoyed. But move on. This is delaying his title aspirations by all of a few months, and he's threatening to retire. Thank God Junior wasn't that mentally weak.
No, they weren't, nobody with a loss passed them by, Cain and Nick were all on winning streaks and Carlos would have never fought Georges anyway since he ended up getting hurt before 137 and then if they did still schedule it for 143 he would have ended up tearing his ACL and Carlos and Nick would have still fought and even when they pushed him to the side for Nick, at least Nick was on a winning streak when that happened.

In Junior's case the only guys that got title shots before him were Carwin and Cain, both undefeated and he would have got a title shot sooner if Cain's shoulder hadn't got messed up in the Lesnar fight.

In this case, there is no undefeated challenger or a guy on a massive win streak, Hendricks got pushed to the side for a guy coming off a loss, something that didn't happen to Junior or Carlos, yeah it wasn't far to Junior and Carlos either but the situation isn't exactly the same thing.

But what's done is done and unfortunately, it doesn't look like there's any way to stop it, he just needs to tell the UFC to **** off when they come to him with a fight that isn't Georges St. Pierre and eventually he'll get his shot.

But then again and no one has really brought this up but it wouldn't surprise me at all to see the Strikeforce Champs come over and unify the belts, which would mean GSP would have to fight Marquardt too and if Rockhold and Melendez get one which looks like it could very well happen since Weidman's hurt and Pettis and Cerrone haven't fought yet, I don't see why Nate wouldn't get one either.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:21 AM   #22 (permalink)
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First and foremost, Hendricks definitely deserved a title shot... but that's not what's being debated here.

There's lots of things that are 'unfair' that happen, it just shows what type of character you have if you can get by it and take the higher road. Johnny is the hypocrite here and really needs to stop crying and deal with it.

Not even a week ago he was clamouring about how he respects GSP and how he doesn't need to trash talk to get fights, he just keeps his head down and trains...it's his motivation.

Fast forward a week... yeah ....... Hendricks calls GSP scared and a hypocrite

Word to the wise Johnny. You don't want to go down the same path as Mr. Fitch, also be careful what you wish for. Everyone thinks they can beat GSP until they get into the ring.... how things quickly change when the cage shuts.

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Hendricks is gonna try his damnedest to talk his was into a title shot.
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Nick talks trash to GSP, comes off of a loss to Condit, and gets his title shot because GSP wants to fight him. Okay, fair enough. Hendricks rips off 5 straight wins, beating 3 top 5 guys in a row knocking out 2, gets passed up by someone coming off a loss, and he has to keep his mouth shut? No, I completely disagree. He absolutely has every single right to let out all his anger at this point. As a matter of fact, I expected him to go on this rant. History has shown that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. So if you really think about it, he's playing the game now. What is he supposed to just keep quiet and beat people while constantly getting passed up for title shots?

Anybody that he fights that is not the champion is a step down in competition at this point. The smartest thing for him to do is to wait it out until after GSP and Nick fight. It's not about lack of confidence that he won't win another fight, its about feeling that he has the right to not take any other fights until it's for the belt. No matter how confident someone is, anything can happen at any given fight. Okay so if he doesn't win, maybe he's not the rightful challenger to the belt. But what if he's training for this next opponent, injures himself and has to sit out for another 4 months? What if when the fight happens, his opponent pokes him in the eye, the ref doesn't see it, and it's declared a KO loss? What if he's completely dominating the fight, eats a vicious elbow right above his eye, and the fight gets called? Maybe those setbacks aren't "true" loses, but they still back him up another, what, 2 years(?).

I completely understand how he's feeling right now, and hope he eventually get the title shot after GSP/Nick.
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1.Does he deserve the shot? Sure, but this was a match that was suppose to happen before all that silly GSP/Diaz/Condit fiasco happened. So it's not like they passed him over some other "random" dude that wasn't in contention before.

2.As DW said, when has GSP ever demanded anything unlike most of the douches in the UFC who cries like little girls. Despite his geeky good guy face, GSP doesn't like getting trash talked let alone by a low life scum like Diaz. So is it that far fetched for him to request "1" fight to beat the snot out of that punk?

3.GSP says he's always scared of ALL his opponents before the fight but then that also keeps him focused. To me Hendricks is the one being a chicken shit atm, seriously if you're so invincible why not just keep on taking random challenges until you earn your shot? What was that? Oh he's SCARED he's going to lose to some random guy?

4.Condit waited a year for GSP, Fitch is STILL WAITING for a title fight rematch that he'll never get, Hendricks just burst into the scene and he needs to STFU. Unlike other divisions where the talent pool is thin and a 3 fight win streak might give you a title shot, the WW division and LW division is retarded in terms of depth and he needs to wait.

5.As Hendriks pointed out this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, wouldn't you want the best possible training camp ever? Wouldn't 4 extra months even be better against GSP? Is he that confident? Or is he just a greedy bearded red neck who is just trying to cash in big money before his hot streak ends.
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This kind of behavior shows lack of confidence imo. If you're confident, you'll go out there and hurt ppl until you get the shot. If not, you'll start bashing the champ saying he's a coward because you might not get the shot anymore.
I agree. I'm not too impressed with his comments, comes off as insecure but mostly childish. "you know wha I mean", "ya know wha I'm sayin'". Just a bit annoying ya think???

I don't think he necessarily should be a guarantee for the next title shot against GSP. Not sying he shouldn't either, just saying he'll get his shot when the UFC is ready to give it to him. In the meantime, shutup, train and fight when you're told to fight.
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Hendricks is gonna try his damnedest to talk his was into a title shot.
As the Diaz fight is already set? I doubt it. He better hope Diaz screws up. Calling GSP a hypocrite is a terrible job at talking your way into anything. He can't sell a fight even when he tries hard. That is why the UFC is doing Diaz/GSP in the first place.

Hendricks sounds like an idiot. Stop crying. Every day there is something "new" or actually old and stale that he spews. I like Hendricks, but he is being annoying.

It's not pee wee football, where everyone wins and everyone gets a turn.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:34 AM   #28 (permalink)
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As the Diaz fight is already set? I doubt it. He better hope Diaz screws up. Calling GSP a hypocrite is a terrible job at talking your way into anything. He can't sell a fight even when he tries hard. That is why the UFC is doing Diaz/GSP in the first place.

Hendricks sounds like an idiot. Stop crying. Every day there is something "new" or actually old and stale that he spews. I like Hendricks, but he is being annoying.

It's not pee wee football, where everyone wins and everyone gets a turn.
Then why do they have Championship belts...
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Then why do they have Championship belts...
What does that have to do with it not being little kid sports? Where everyone gets a fair turn?

They have belts to sell fights. They have belts to crown rightful champs. I would say it works well as JDS, Jones, Anderson, GSP, Aldo, Barao, and Mighty are all rightful champs. And Bendo looked like a legit champ last fight even if he lost before that. Can't say as much for Rousey's belt as much as I love her.

There is no ranking system. Fighters throughout time have got undeserved shots. This is nothing new, as much as all of you want to whine and cry as if this is Blasphemy and never happened before. It happened. Instead of crying about it for months just wait it out. Lil Johnny will get his title shot.
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I know that. I was just saying that JDS and Condit are bad comparisons because of the reasons i've presented in my previous post.
No, they aren't bad comparisons. Both men were promised title shots that never happened. It's the same scenario faced by Hendricks. You can make light of Junior's streak all you like, but that doesn't make it the case. He went on a seven fight win streak before finally being given his title shot, a streak which included wins over Fabricio Werdum, Stefan Struve, CroCop, Gabe Gonzaga, Roy Nelson, and Shane Carwin. That's nearly 3/4s of the heavyweight division alone, so regardless of the additional few names Junior could have faced, he more than paid his dues. And when his moment finally came, injuries put his title aspirations on the back-burner. What did JDS do? He said he wanted to stay active, took another fight, won, challenged for the belt thereafter, and is now the champion. All for the sake of an extra few months wait. Your saying that Hendricks has beaten more people en route to a title shot is wrong. Barring Machida, no one has beaten more men whilst being put off for a title shot than JDS.

Carlos Condit also defeated the then rightful Strikeforce welterweight champion, a man whom everyone thought was going to run roughshod over the UFC following his win over BJ Penn. It's only now, after his loss to Carlos that people deny Nick Diaz the credit he genuinely deserves. What's more is, Johnny was only promised a potential number one contender-ship spot. Carlos Condit was offered a championship match. Advertised as the next man in line. Put on a bloody poster. Only to have it all ripped away from him. But what did he do? He kept quiet. Waited. And now he has an interim title accolade to show for it.

Hendricks deserves his shot. And he'll get it. This isn't about who deserves what and how soon they deserve it. I've never denied that Hendricks is getting the shaft. But if he really believes he's the best, then he can either take another fight or train while he waits an extra couple of months. In my honest opinion, Hendricks is scared. Because he's lost to guys like Rick Story. And because he only managed to pull off a half-hearted decision against Josh Koscheck. I don't think Hendricks actually believes he's the best, and so he wants his shot now before someone else threatens to take it away. He's mentally weak. Very much so. Especially in comparison to men like JDS and Carlos, who are prime examples of 'get the shaft but pick up and carry on'.

Please understand that I'm not saying the situations are the exact same. But one can be as unfair or as hurtful as the other.
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