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Old 12-14-2012, 09:03 PM   #41 (permalink)
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When Machida fought reckless? Back then Shogun threw punches and kicks, all Henderson is gonna do is go for his overhand right. He's also not as fast as Shogun was back then.
Actually he sets up that overhand right with a vicious inside leg kick
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Machida has to fight a really smart fight like he did against Bader to beat Henderson. He has to avoid that right hand at all costs or else he's going to sleep. Machida will have a major advantage in the championship rounds because Henderson's cardio is not good.
Fight's only set for three rounds but I believe Hendo will be too tired and too hurt from kicks to make it the distance and will get subbed or TKO'ed.
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Fight's only set for three rounds but I believe Hendo will be too tired and too hurt from kicks to make it the distance and will get subbed or TKO'ed.
Really dude?

Would you rather put money on Lyoto finishing Hendo than Lyoto winning a decision?
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Fight's only set for three rounds but I believe Hendo will be too tired and too hurt from kicks to make it the distance and will get subbed or TKO'ed.
Only 3 rounds, seriously? That's incredibly disappointing.
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Really dude?

Would you rather put money on Lyoto finishing Hendo than Lyoto winning a decision?
I really think he can finish him late, so yeah, I'd bet on a finish.

Everyone brings up how Hendo lands the H-Bomb all the time but Feijao, Fedor, and Shogun all dropped him as well perhaps his chin is on the decline? Only one way to find out.
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I really think he can finish him late, so yeah, I'd bet on a finish.

Everyone brings up how Hendo lands the H-Bomb all the time but Feijao, Fedor, and Shogun all dropped him as well perhaps his chin is on the decline? Only one way to find out.
Feijao, Fedor and Shogun all hit much, much harder than Machida. No, his chin isn't on the decline.
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Interesting fight.

Seems like a terrible match up for Henderson, but Lyoto doesn't like getting hit and no one in the sport hits harder than Hendo.
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Hendo's timing is better than Machida's? I think timing is one of the best (if not the very best) assets in Machida's arsenal.
Machida is famous for his counter striking skills. Can Hendo time Machida? Maybe, but the numbers are not in his favor.
Again. Machida is not Bisping.
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Hendo's timing is better than Machida's? I think timing is one of the best (if not the very best) assets in Machida's arsenal.
Machida is famous for his counter striking skills. Can Hendo time Machida? Maybe, but the numbers are not in his favor.
Again. Machida is not Bisping.
No one ever said Machida is Bisping. Hendo has knocked out and beaten better strikers than Bisping.
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I respect everything you are saying. But I don't get why people say this? Shogun was a 2 to 1 favorite vs. Dan. Yea, after the fight people said he wasn't the same...because Hendo put it on him like no one ever had. You can't be fast and fresh when you get a handful of H-Bombs in the first round.

People are saying Machida is so improved...why? Because he KO'd Bader and 50 year old Couture? Taylor-Made opponents? And had 1 decent round vs. Bones? That means he is so improved?
I myself wouldn't go that far. Maybe he is, but beating Randy at that stage and Bader at any stage doesn't prove much to me.

When Dan beat Fedor...Fedor was washed up even though he was like a 2.5-1 favorite over him and most people here gave Dan little chance. When Dan fought Shogun, maybe not you, but most here said Shogun is just better, more well-rounded, good chin. He should win. After, Shogun all of a sudden was considered slow and washed up.

If Hendo H-Bombs Machida will people say Machida is over the hill? It would go in line with what has happened before. I think Machida should be the favorite. But for people to write off Hendo is laughable too me. People don't learn their lessons.

If Hendo beats Machida people will act like Dan is such a beast after. Then when his next fight rolls around they will write him off again...
Shogun is still a terrific fighter, but since Machida 2 he has looked noticeably different to me. Every fight since, even the ones that he has won, he just looks slower, like he doesn't still have the same spring in his step. He also tires quicker as well. He's still a great fighter, but he has definitely turned into more of a wild brawler/slugger in recent, drawing the opponent into crazy slug fests to try and make up for his decrease in speed and snap.

On the other hand, Machida has not slowed down in speed or explosiveness at all. In fact, in his last two fights he looked leaner and in even better shape. He has not been decayed by injuries as of yet, and he has the added experience gleaned from a couple of losses. That old chestnut of you learn far more by losing than winning. All together, I'd say Machida is at least at the same highest level he has ever been, if not slightly better for some lessons learned. He has not reached the descent period of his career quite yet.

I've never subscribed to the notion that fighters suddenly become shit overnight after a couple of losses, or that they've suddenly 'lost it', only to become amazing again after one win or two. People's opinions on fighters go up and down like yo yo's on this forum - Machida being a great example. From the 'Machida Era', to the 'Machida is going to be/should be cut era', to the 'Machida is back era' etc etc

The reality is that he was always roughly at the same level, with a couple of ups and downs along the way.
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