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post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 12:56 AM
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I'd like a poll, people are saying Diaz/GSP is a bigger fight but I kinda doubt it. I like Diaz but would much much rather see Hendricks get the shot and most non mma fans have no clue who either guy is. Someone put up a poll and lets see which fight actually is more wanted
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So what do you tell a guy that never ask for anything? How about tough shit your fighting Johny Hendricks? Seriously, GSP is Dana's employee and he can't explain to him why Diaz can't get a shot?

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Dana is the promoter not the owner, he can't force champions to take fights. He can run the event and cancel the events(though he has to pay) he can choose not to work with fighters but he doesn't own them.

It's the difference between an organization (NFL, NBA, WWE) and a promotion. Dana has to come to a contractual terms with the fighters for every fight.

As for GSP's reasoning, clearly it's money. Johny isn't the draw Diaz is, Diaz has a fan base 10 years in the making, two years ago 75% of you didn't give a crap out Hendricks. I feel like if they had an winnable fight for Diaz in the top ten this doesn't happen. Diaz was given the two guys he could beat, Penn and Condit he looked good enough to get a title shot GSP/Dana and the UFC are jumping on it.
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In B4 GSP is scared...


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Makes sense. GSP can probably hold Diaz down for 25 minutes. But he can't take even one punch from Hendricks.

Just shows how dangerous Hendricks is that Diaz is the safe choice.
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hendricks is the #1 contender
but I want to see Diaz vs GSP way more
hendricks doesn't play the PR game, and that's what happen to those who don't play the PR game when the UFC/Zuffa goes all out to promote MMA to the masses.

it's a business move, and a good one. If you want nothing but deserving fights happening, watch bellator, it's their trademark. I for one am happy that the UFC leaves that to them, as it allow both promotions to grow without taking the same spot.

but look at other "low PR" fighters, they get pushed on the back of the line more often than not. Fighters like Condit, Fitch, Munoz, or even champions, they're having the hardest of times promoting JDS, they're trying and they have some success, but the guy isn't simply polarizing enough, and positive opinions will always be quieter than negative opinions, but in PR/marketing, any opinion is good to take.

whereas "high PR" fighters, Diaz bros, GSP, jones, Sonnen, Nelson, McDonald (Rory) etc... they skyrocket to the big money fights. People either love em or hate them. You don't see a 30 pages long thread about hendricks even tho he's in the #1 contender spot, people are just not talking about him enough for it to be a good money fight.


about Nelson, I even suspect that the "feud" between him and Dana is probably something they're willingly letting go on, making Nelson a bigger and bigger name in the process.

in the end, they still have to win fights (should Diaz lose to GSP, he'll get sent to the back of the line for some time), but being more marketable is obviously the best way to get big money fights.

from a business stand point, it makes perfect sense. MMA has its roots in entertainment, pure entertainment, at first it was a spectacle. It's only tradition if they put entertainment value so high in their mind, that's how the sport was born.
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GSP is not scared, but this is kind of still him ducking Hendricks for some personal revenge mission thing....weird.
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Dana is the promoter not the owner, he can't force champions to take fights. He can run the event and cancel the events(though he has to pay) he can choose not to work with fighters but he doesn't own them.

It's the difference between an organization (NFL, NBA, WWE) and a promotion. Dana has to come to a contractual terms with the fighters for every fight.

As for GSP's reasoning, clearly it's money. Johny isn't the draw Diaz is, Diaz has a fan base 10 years in the making, two years ago 75% of you didn't give a crap out Hendricks. I feel like if they had an winnable fight for Diaz in the top ten this doesn't happen. Diaz was given the two guys he could beat, Penn and Condit he looked good enough to get a title shot GSP/Dana and the UFC are jumping on it.
I would bet my right testicle ( the small one ) that the fighters contracts have something in them regards having to take any fights the UFC consider mandatory. As long as there is a champion and a belt, you cant have fighters choosing their fights and maintain a healthy level of professionalism.

Sonnen vs Bones should not have been booked. Neither should GSP vs Diaz.

Luckily, I have a sense of humour. I'm also a bit mad... so I'm very much looking forward to both fights.
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I love how he blasts boxing for putting on money fights when he's making Jones/Sonnen and GSP/Diaz.

Guy's a massive hypocrite.
This makes no sense. And I'm not sure what you are trying to say? He bashes them for making money fights? No he doesn't. His whole basis for talking about boxing and the matchmaking is the Pacman/Mayweather crap. And how #1 and #2 at the same weight class can't even get together to put on the fight everyone wanted to see. How is that bashing money fights? That is bashing them not being able to do the fights people want to see. While he over here is making fights the masses want to see.

It is so funny how people are still crying about this. When GSP asked for Diaz. GSP and his trainer said Diaz is #1 contender. GSP thought Kos won the Hendricks fight. And people still want to cry about this every day? Get over it. GSP, the very man everyone adores wants to fight Diaz. Tough shit.

Dana White is putting on the fights everyone wants to see. And are giving young up and coming fighters a chance to face legends earlier in their careers unlike boxing. Rory vs BJ. Gustaf vs Shogun.

You seem like you are bitching just to bitch at this point. Dana is doing exactly what he says he tries to do. Put on the biggest fights that everyone wants to see. And a majority of people want to see Diaz. Including...um....hmmm...um...THE CHAMP OF THE DAMN DIVISION.....???
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I agree with the above point. Is there really any sense in whining anymore? The fight is happening, so either sit back and enjoy it or ignore it entirely. Shedding tears over an internet forum isn't going to accomplish anything. And frankly, it doesn't matter what these champions or the UFC decide... there will always be one or two people standing by, ready to piss, moan, and tell the world how much better they could run the organization.

I also disagree with this asinine notion that GSP 'couldn't take one of Johny's punches'. The man has been TKOed once in his career by a punch to the back of the ear, which is entirely different than what Hendricks throws. That and anyone questioning GSP's ability to take a shot after the Condit head kick is a bit of a dunce.
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This makes no sense. And I'm not sure what you are trying to say? He bashes them for making money fights? No he doesn't. His whole basis for talking about boxing and the matchmaking is the Pacman/Mayweather crap. And how #1 and #2 at the same weight class can't even get together to put on the fight everyone wanted to see. How is that bashing money fights? That is bashing them not being able to do the fights people want to see. While he over here is making fights the masses want to see.

It is so funny how people are still crying about this. When GSP asked for Diaz. GSP and his trainer said Diaz is #1 contender. GSP thought Kos won the Hendricks fight. And people still want to cry about this every day? Get over it. GSP, the very man everyone adores wants to fight Diaz. Tough shit.

Dana White is putting on the fights everyone wants to see. And are giving young up and coming fighters a chance to face legends earlier in their careers unlike boxing. Rory vs BJ. Gustaf vs Shogun.

You seem like you are bitching just to bitch at this point. Dana is doing exactly what he says he tries to do. Put on the biggest fights that everyone wants to see. And a majority of people want to see Diaz. Including...um....hmmm...um...THE CHAMP OF THE DAMN DIVISION.....???
Okay, that explains GSP/Diaz a fight that in no way, shape, form, or fashion will be competitive, in the mean time, please unlatch yourself from Nick's balls and explain to me where's the big out-cry for Jones/Sonnen? Oh yeah....there isn't one....this guy's a complete hypocrite but at least Marquez was competitive against Pacquiao and it could have been sold no one at all wants to watch Jones waste one his last fights at 205 against a guy coming off a loss to a Middleweight. Dana is basically a poor man's Bob Arum, without Brock this guy can't get a PPV to go over a million buys no matter what he does.

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It won't surprise me if Hendricks ends up fighting GSP anyway. Has anyone said Nick has accepted the fight? Nick will probably just fail another drug test and Hendricks will get the fight anyway.


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