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Old 12-18-2012, 11:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Okay, that explains GSP/Diaz a fight that in no way, shape, form, or fashion will be competitive, in the mean time, please unlatch yourself from Nick's balls and explain to me where's the big out-cry for Jones/Sonnen? Oh yeah....there isn't one....this guy's a complete hypocrite but at least Marquez was competitive against Pacquiao and it could have been sold no one at all wants to watch Jones waste one his last fights at 205 against a guy coming off a loss to a Middleweight. Dana is basically a poor man's Bob Arum, without Brock this guy can't get a PPV to go over a million buys no matter what he does.
These UFC guys obviously have no idea how to run a business, I mean look how bad things have been been over the last several years....Oh wait.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Okay, that explains GSP/Diaz a fight that in no way, shape, form, or fashion will be competitive, in the mean time, please unlatch yourself from Nick's balls and explain to me where's the big out-cry for Jones/Sonnen? Oh yeah....there isn't one....this guy's a complete hypocrite but at least Marquez was competitive against Pacquiao and it could have been sold no one at all wants to watch Jones waste one his last fights at 205 against a guy coming off a loss to a Middleweight. Dana is basically a poor man's Bob Arum, without Brock this guy can't get a PPV to go over a million buys no matter what he does.
Other than saving TUF I'm not sure why he made the Jones/Sonnen fight. He could have fed an easy fight to Sonnen then gave him the shot. Not sure why Hendo just got lost in all of this. My guess is he wants TUF to do good numbers. He has probably wanted Chael on TUF for a while now.

Again, if people will watch he will put on those fights. Don't tune in. Make your voice heard. Thats how this whole thing works. If you thought a "sport" that gave you Toney/Couture would turn into this ranking system matchmaking, cater to the minority, totally fair organization then you have been fooled. And really need to step out of delusional land and into reality.

If GSP didn't ask for Diaz I would bet that he was planning on giving it to Hendricks. But if GSP is calling for a fight...it will sell more. If the champ wants to fight the guy he was scheduled o fight before...it will sell even more.

If you aren't going to get a grip on how this works, I don't know what to tell you. I guess you can keep pouting over the fact the UFC isn't ran how you want it to be ran.
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These UFC guys obviously have no idea how to run a business, I mean look how bad things have been been over the last several years....Oh wait.
Did I say Dana didn't know how to run a business? Nope, I said he was a poor man's Bob Arum and I said he hasn't got a PPV to go over a million buys since Brock left, which is the truth. 'The biggest fight in UFC history' only got 900,000 buys.

But if you wanna look at the last few years, you'll notice the UFC is in a pretty steep decline as far as North America goes. Ratings and Buys are significantly down, TUF is stale, the FOX deal hasn't lived up to expectations yet and the UFC recently had to cancel it's first ever PPV event.

Not to mention they have people bitching left and right about the Flyweights, Women's division, TRT, and injuries, although they can't control that last one.
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He has probably wanted Chael on TUF for a while now.
I remember hearing Dana say one time that Fox loves Chael. So I am sure they wanted him on TUF.
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Diaz doesn't get a title shot everyone is in arms and GSP is scared. GSP gets the UFC to make the fight and suddenly he is scared of Hendricks. Give me a break.
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Did I say Dana didn't know how to run a business? Nope, I said he was a poor man's Bob Arum and I said he hasn't got a PPV to go over a million buys since Brock left, which is the truth. 'The biggest fight in UFC history' only got 900,000 buys.

But if you wanna look at the last few years, you'll notice the UFC is in a pretty steep decline as far as North America goes. Ratings and Buys are significantly down, TUF is stale, the FOX deal hasn't lived up to expectations yet and the UFC recently had to cancel it's first ever PPV event.

Not to mention they have people bitching left and right about the Flyweights, Women's division, TRT, and injuries, although they can't control that last one.
lol, there's so much 'spinning' in this post it's ridiculous.
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Did I say Dana didn't know how to run a business? Nope, I said he was a poor man's Bob Arum and I said he hasn't got a PPV to go over a million buys since Brock left, which is the truth. 'The biggest fight in UFC history' only got 900,000 buys.
Well, to be fair, organized boxing has about 183 years on the UFC, plus or minus 10 years for North American MMA in general. I don't doubt UFC fighters will be making pro boxing money within the next 10-20 years (assuming it's still around), which isn't bad for being 180 or so years behind its predecessor.

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But if you wanna look at the last few years, you'll notice the UFC is in a pretty steep decline as far as North America goes. Ratings and Buys are significantly down, TUF is stale, the FOX deal hasn't lived up to expectations yet and the UFC recently had to cancel it's first ever PPV event.

Not to mention they have people bitching left and right about the Flyweights, Women's division, TRT, and injuries, although they can't control that last one.
I don't know the current financial standings of the UFC vs recent years, but I agree that it seems the ship isn't running quite as tight as it has in the past. However, I do know that Dana did help pull the UFC out of their near bankruptcy years, so I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. I believe that ultimately, the UFC will continue to grow, regardless of the most recent mishaps and number of disgruntle fans.
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Here we go again...

So: PPV numbers dropping = UFC in decline?

Somebody show me some evidence of this. Show me that the UFC is earning less money now then when they had higher PPV numbers.

Because what I'm seeing are sponsors who are several steps above the sponsors they had a few years ago. I'm seeing more shows on network TV then ever before. I'm seeing far greater exposure = far higher ad opportunities. I'm seeing the UFC paying fighters more then ever before. Covering their insurance. The list goes on. Do these look like signs that a company is in sharp decline?

PPV is a stupid outdated model. Dana has said many times in the past he wants to move away from PPV. That's exactly what's happening. It's not decline. It's completely by design.

Till anybody has any evidence, please stop with the naive notion that the UFC is declining, just because thier PPV numbers are down.
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Agreed with the above. Not sure why people say the UFC is in decline.

I certainly see a lot of growth.

You have more shows, you are going to do less numbers. It's not that hard to grasp.

There is a big difference between decline and slowing growth. Do people really think the UFC will continue to grow at such a rate? It isn't possible. Doesn't mean they are hurting.
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Did I say Dana didn't know how to run a business? Nope, I said he was a poor man's Bob Arum and I said he hasn't got a PPV to go over a million buys since Brock left, which is the truth. 'The biggest fight in UFC history' only got 900,000 buys.

But if you wanna look at the last few years, you'll notice the UFC is in a pretty steep decline as far as North America goes. Ratings and Buys are significantly down, TUF is stale, the FOX deal hasn't lived up to expectations yet and the UFC recently had to cancel it's first ever PPV event.

Not to mention they have people bitching left and right about the Flyweights, Women's division, TRT, and injuries, although they can't control that last one.
most people are going to jump all over you for this, and while your post has some merit I will attribute all of that to growing pains. They are trying to transfer from niche audience to mainstream and it's hard to do, they are still turning massive profits. Once the talent pool adjusts (in 3 or 4 years) things will really start to pick up.

There is too much of a difference between the champs and the contenders because the correct ways to train for mma are only now being mastered. Once there are 10 more guys like Silva, JDS and GSP things will really pick up. It's not the promotion that's causing the growing pains, it's the talent pool lagging behind the UFC's ambitions by a few years.
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