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***OFFICIAL*** Junior dos Santos vs. Cain Velasquez II Thread

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#1 ·
Heavyweight bout: 255 pounds
Five round fight for the UFC Heavyweight Championship

 
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Junior has fought a murderer's row of Heavyweights and he has been near-flawless in slaying them.

Cain, Mir, Gonzaga, Nelson, Carwin, Struve, Werdum, and Cro Cop and none of them put him in danger, he's been on his back a total of 12 seconds during a four year UFC tenure.

The first time, a unhealthy Junior beat an unhealthy Cain, this time they should both be healthy but the result will be the same.
 
#15 ·
If "it" is a sound beating.

Cain's striking is better than that of most heavyweights. It's still not, y'know, good. He'll be able to take Junior down if he can set the shot up with his striking. The problem is Junior is too good, and that window Cain has to do that before he gets put on queer street is pretty narrow.
 
#10 ·
Junior should win it in the 2nd round as Cain will be more cautious

Surely the best Cain we will have seen so we will see what he is made of, i dont think he should be written off
 
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Undoubtedly, these are the top 2 Heavyweight in the UFC.

The key to this match is Cain's TD VS JDS TDD. If JDS is able to keep this on the feet like the first time, I see JDS taking this via KO again. But if Cain is able to take JDS down and hold him there, we will see for the very first time how good JDS is on the ground.

It is interesting to note that JDS has never face a wrestler with Cain's credentials not counting the 1st time they meet when Cain didn't really commit to any takedown. So I believe if anyone can take JDS down, is Cain (and Comier)

Like the 1st time, I will sides towards JDS. War Junior Dos Santos!
 
#16 ·
This should be interesting.
While I'm not at all a JDS fan, he presents a pretty rough stylistic matchup for Cain.
Cain did tear his ACL before the fight, but Junior was also hurt as well, so this time I feel like we'll get to see some more action.

I think Cain will be prepared for Junior's striking but he knows he can't afford to get hit much.

Cain by TKO R3.
 
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#17 ·
Cain didn't have a torn ACL, if his ACL had been torn he'd have never fought Junior or Bigfoot, his knee was messed up but not that badly.
 
#18 ·
Cain is not gonna want to mess around on the feet this time, he should have learnt from the Kongo fight but having to climb back up he is not gonna try and prove his stand up skills he will go for TD's and GnP all night long. The question is can he get it? Can JDS defend and make him pay for trying?

Personally I don't think Cain can keep Junior off his chin for 5 rounds but I am starting to think he can get aggressive and finish him the way he did BigFoot.
 
#19 ·
He didn't want to fight on the feet last time, no one does. Cain, like everyone else, was FORCED to stand. The length of the fight is irrelevant, supposed injuries are irrelevant, Cain tried a takedown and did not get it.

The mental mountain Cain has to climb when he meets Cigano again will be HUGE, 10 seconds later he'll be eating jabs again. Massive underdog IMO.
 
#29 ·
Why 255? Is it not 265?

Anyways, JDS is a monster. I think Cain struggles to get the takedown and JDS picks him apart in a FORCED kickboxing match. Cain is amazing himself, very well rounded. However, JDS is just on another level IMO. JDS, tko round 2.

Edit: Never mind about the question.
 
#31 ·
As stated numerous times I had JDS from years ago to win the title. But something tells me that we'll see a trilogy with these two. Every sport needs a #1 and #2. I believe this is it.

JDS has a much higher chanct to end it within the first which means Cain needs to be sharp and look for the take down at all times. Hesitating will mean certain doom.

Cain simply needs to do what he always does. Come in with pressure and watch for that left hook and uppercut. Heck I'd go with an ankle pick to keep JDS off balance. Cain needs to make this dirty, clinch, and push a relentless pace GSP style.

If Cain makes it into the 3rd then it's his fight to win. JDS is ultra dangerous for the first two rounds. He will tire out eventually.

Ironically I'm not a fan of Cain. I just call it how I see it.
 
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#38 ·
I'm conflicted. I really like both guys, and it could potentially go either way. I guess I want to see Junior win just because it'd be cool to have a dominant champ for the heavyweight division. That belt gets passed around a lot, and it'd be cool to see someone actually hang onto it for a while.
 
#39 ·
This fight will be a little different. I think Cain will get an agressive takedown this time around, he'll most likely hold Junior down for more time than he's been held down in his entire UFC career, which will take what, 20 seconds? But after he gets up Cain will be demoralized and will ultimately get KO'ed again, I think it will happen inside 2 1/2 rounds. We won't see the "championship" rounds here.

My question is, what's Cain going to do with 2 losses to the current champ? HW purgatory is going to be a tough place to play, he'll have to become an Overeem fan.

Plain and simple, I have never been more sure of a victory.
 
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