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post #271 of 345 (permalink) Old 12-30-2012, 03:30 AM
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Eh Cain wants to get that first fight out of people's heads you need to finish. JDS couldn't lift his hands at the end of the fight Cain ended up looking like he was scared of exchanges with a guy that didn't want to fight anymore.

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You mean like Rory against BJ

But yes, he should have stopped clinching JDS up against the fence and started to throw some combo's on him. he definitely would have went down. he wasn't even defending at one point.

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I really thought Cain was gonna be the more skilled guy what blew my mind was just how well he mixed things up and how much he threw JDS off. And secondly how tired Junior was. I just figured that at some point JDS was gonna catch Cain and put him to sleep because you can't train a chin and I still think Cain's is questionable. After one round it looked pretty clear that Cain had stole JDS soul and his punching power in 5 minutes.

Not sure how a 3rd fight would go, again I think it would be a much different fight. JDS one tool he was having incredible success with tonight was his body shots and it really appeared they were taking something out of Cain by the end of the fight so I would expect to see that be a more major focus for JDS in a rematch. I also think JDS would need to figure out a way to threaten or punish Cain for the TD attempts because even though JDS looked to be shrugging them off early in the first he was doing nothing to stop them from continuously coming and that allowed Cain to use them as a tool to open up without fear of being countered.
Tbh and i might be completely off basis but some moments off the fight hand me questioning JDS heart. I know he stuck in there all 5 rounds but i felt that he had his will broken alot easier then expected.

Ofcourse i could be very well wrong and looking in to something that isnt there. But its just what went through my head as i was watching the fight. I was surprised by it because i always thought JDS is the type of guy that wont let his will be broken no matter what. Which he might be and my assumption as i was watching the fight might be wrong. Im not a mind reader so i get that.

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So much butthurt in this thread it's glorious.

I thought JDS was going to destroy Cain again, Cain just won me over, 'Brown Pride' tattoo or not, the guy has more perseverance than genital herpes - RESPECT.
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You mean like Rory against BJ

But yes, he should have stopped clinching JDS up against the fence and started to throw some combo's on him. he definitely would have went down. he wasn't even defending at one point.
Nice attempt at trolling. Rory easily could have finished Penn at any point and took his foot off the gas and I was critical of that. Except Penn hadn't stopped Rory in a minute in previous fight and at no point beyond the first round did Cain appear to be trying to finish. He looked nervous about open exchanges with JDS.

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He looked nervous about open exchanges with JDS.
What kind of an idiot wouldn't be nervous about open exchanges with JDS?
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I felt really bad for JDS at the end, especially when he was inches from tears, asking the crowd why they were booing. Nice guy, just cannot stand how hard some people on this forum latch onto his balls.

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- I was super impressed by Cain, I don't know how anyone couldn't be. He beat JDS in every facet of the game, striking, grappling, you name it. I was beyond surprised when he dropped him in the first with that punch, and landed that kick as well.

- JDS has proven to have really good takedown defense, even in this fight. I originally expected Cain to come out like a madman and take him down at will, but he gave Cain some major fits with his TDD. However, we did get to see what JDS is like on his back and he's actually very average. I expected more from someone who trains out of Team Nogueira.

- This puts JDS in a really, realy tricky situation and the heavyweight division is looking to be more confusing. Who does he fight next? He's literally just about cleared out the division. Carwin, Mir, Nelson, Struve, Werdum...Who the hell does he fight next? Cormier, who has said he won't fight Cain? Barnett maybe? Overeem is more than likely getting the next shot as Velasquez so JDS will need at least one more win to ean arematch, maybe even two.
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Tale of the fight IMO:
Cain came to TD and GNP.
JDS came to stuff TD and GNP at all costs.
Cain implemented his gameplan ferociously from the start.
JDS used his TDD and fast getting up talent to frustrate Cain inumerous times until Cain started to land his punches heavily still in 1st round.
By being so focused on TDD only and relying only on his chin, Junior ate several bombs, which dismantled his ability to fight back real quick, what gave him a Roy Nelson's night.

Tough fight. Cain was the rightful winner, but in no case there was no humiliation here. 5 rounds of championship heavy weight action and great heart from both fighters.


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JDS wins the rematch

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I wouldn't be surprised if Nike dropped JDS as a sponsor. That's how bad that performance was.
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Cains pace is just to fast for the heavyweight devision.

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