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Budhisten 12-20-2012 09:21 AM

JDS takes a shot at Overeem
 
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Tucked neatly between Christmas and New Year's Day is UFC 155, a rematch of the world's top heavyweight Junior dos Santos, and the man who held the claim just before him, Cain Velasquez. It's a fight that is reasonable in its construction, though it leaves something lacking in the buildup. You see, both dos Santos and Velasquez are nice guys, the polite types who hold doors for women and the elderly regardless of whether or not they're in a rush.

As observers, we're intrigued because of their histories, but also because we're not quite sure the first go-round between them, a 64-second knockout win by dos Santos, was indicative of any real talent gap between them. On that night, it was a chasm, but hardly anyone thinks dos Santos will steamroll Velasquez the same way, including the champ himself.

Still, it's been a quick turnaround, with just 13 months and one fight apiece separating the original bout and rematch, and the looming specter of Alistair Overeem out there in the ether, haunting the division.

For a time, Overeem was certain he would be fighting on Dec. 29, a setup that would have been fine with dos Santos, who in August reportedly told UFC president Dana White that he'd prefer to fight the "Demolition Man" over Velasquez.

In a Wednesday conference call, dos Santos reversed course, taking a shot at Overeem in the process.

"I prefer to fight against clean athletes and real professionals," he said. "Cain is one of these guys. Heís a real professional fighter and thatís a good challenge for me. I know heís very tough and I know how hard I have to train to face him. The other guys, they just say things but thereís nothing behind the words. [b]Guys like me and Cain Velasquez, we are made at the gym. And guys like the other guy, they are made at the laboratory.""I prefer to fight against clean athletes and real professionals," he said. "Cain is one of these guys. Heís a real professional fighter and thatís a good challenge for me. I know heís very tough and I know how hard I have to train to face him. The other guys, they just say things but thereís nothing behind the words. Guys like me and Cain Velasquez, we are made at the gym. And guys like the other guy, they are made at the laboratory."

The words are no doubt reference to Overeem's testosterone use, which he claimed came through a shot from his doctor without his knowledge of the contents. Nevertheless, it resulted in a nine-month suspension, which he is still serving. That suspension is what has him unable to fight dos Santos, otherwise the two behemoths would have likely been exchanging words on a day like today.

Instead, in a call that was otherwise filled with respectful words and standard pre-fight cliches, it was the only bomb lobbed in anyone's direction.

The words could reignite the stalling rivalry between the two, which has gone back and forth in the media for a few months, with Overeem saying in November that dos Santos was "afraid of me."

For his part, JDS said that he expects Antonio Silva to upset Overeem's title chances when the two meet in February, believing he "has more technique and is more complete." But if the favored Overeem does manage to win, dos Santos' preference to fight against "clean" athletes won't preclude him from stepping into the cage with one of the few fighters he has anything negative to say about. Instead, the fans might actually get to see the good guy face off with a guy he doesn't really like. And wouldn't that be something?

"I'm not thinking about that," he said when asked who he saw as his next contender. "Actually, I don't care about that. I don't choose opponents. Whoever the UFC puts in front of me, Iíll be ready to face."

The words are no doubt reference to Overeem's testosterone use, which he claimed came through a shot from his doctor without his knowledge of the contents. Nevertheless, it resulted in a nine-month suspension, which he is still serving. That suspension is what has him unable to fight dos Santos, otherwise the two behemoths would have likely been exchanging words on a day like today.

Instead, in a call that was otherwise filled with respectful words and standard pre-fight cliches, it was the only bomb lobbed in anyone's direction.

The words could reignite the stalling rivalry between the two, which has gone back and forth in the media for a few months, with Overeem saying in November that dos Santos was "afraid of me."

For his part, JDS said that he expects Antonio Silva to upset Overeem's title chances when the two meet in February, believing he "has more technique and is more complete." But if the favored Overeem does manage to win, dos Santos' preference to fight against "clean" athletes won't preclude him from stepping into the cage with one of the few fighters he has anything negative to say about. Instead, the fans might actually get to see the good guy face off with a guy he doesn't really like. And wouldn't that be something?

"I'm not thinking about that," he said when asked who he saw as his next contender. "Actually, I don't care about that. I don't choose opponents. Whoever the UFC puts in front of me, Iíll be ready to face."
Source: MMAFighting.com

Rauno 12-20-2012 11:06 AM

Is he talking out of his ass now? I can understand his frustration against Overeem but saying Bigfoot is the more technical and complete of the two and Overeem is all words?

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LL 12-20-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rauno (Post 1660321)
Is he talking out of his ass now? I can understand his frustration against Overeem but saying Bigfoot is the more technical and complete of the two and Overeem is all words?

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The Brazilian fighters are extremely patriotic and it's annoying as hell, I don't think I've ever seen them pick against one of their own.

Crester 12-20-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion (Post 1660339)
The Brazilian fighters are extremely patriotic and it's annoying as hell, I don't think I've ever seen them pick against one of their own.

I know eh? The nerve of those Brazilians supporting each other... it just doesn't make any sense! *rolleyes* :confused03:

lutalivre1989 12-20-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Crester (Post 1660343)
I know eh? The nerve of those Brazilians supporting each other... it just doesn't make any sense! *rolleyes* :confused03:

Almost as bad as when they put their fist in your face :thumb02:

amoosenamedhank 12-20-2012 12:07 PM

I want to see the JDS vs Overeem fight more than any other fight in the HW division right now. So whoever has to lose or win to set that fight up... that's what I want to see happen.

Adam365 12-20-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by amoosenamedhank (Post 1660354)
I want to see the JDS vs Overeem fight more than any other fight in the HW division right now. So whoever has to lose or win to set that fight up... that's what I want to see happen.

^this

HitOrGetHit 12-20-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Crester (Post 1660343)
I know eh? The nerve of those Brazilians supporting each other... it just doesn't make any sense! *rolleyes* :confused03:

Support is one thing. But blindly picking someone as the better fighter simply because they were born in the same part of the world you are is ignorant.

It's like me saying omfg Faber is better than Anderson Silva because he is American. That's not support, it's just dumb.


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mac9955 12-20-2012 12:44 PM

I don't think JDS is getting past Cain, as much as I want JDS to knock out Cain again, I don't think it's happening.

hellholming 12-20-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HitOrGetHit (Post 1660357)
Support is one thing. But blindly picking someone as the better fighter simply because they were born in the same part of the world you are is ignorant.

A-*******-men!

I don't even get nationailty, how am I supposed to be proud of a certain place just because I'm born within some lines some guys made up?

I bet I have more things in common with the Swedes up north who I live closer to than the Finns who live down south and east by the Russian border.


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