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Old 12-27-2012, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How do you feel about paying for JDS-Cain II? + PPV buy predictions

Considering:
  • They made it a big deal of how the 1st one was on free television
  • Last one ended in 64 seconds
  • Cain hasn't proven himself. Rematches should be built around the previous loser being on a good streak. JDS dominated Mir and Cain beat a man coming off from a 1st round stoppage loss where he didn't really do anything other than take beating

The card isn't cheap either. I know it's not all about the main event but it is supposed to be the money maker. No way i'm bashing the card or anything but it just feels weird paying for the fight considering everything. Maybe i'm just biased towards thinking JDS will just hurt him again.

Also how many buys to you guy's they'll get?
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm torn on one hand typically as a champion defends his title he tends to get fans and build on a base. On the other hand the card features Miller/Lauzon/Leben/Boetsch/Belcher/Okami who are mostly card openers. The highest I see it is 600,000 the lowest 400,000...I'm going to say 425,000 not that optimistic.
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Fans love heavyweights and it's getting good promotion, so it has that. Personally I will buy it but I buy all of them, I am a fan of Junior, I love the Lauzon/Miller fight and I think I speak for everyone on that, there's just no way that fight sucks, I'm interested in Boetsch/Costa and I do like me some Okami, Belcher's whatever but Yushin always gets a thumbs up from me, should be a good fight though. Leben/Brunson is whatever. Picket/Wineland or Caraiso/Moraga should be on the PPV instead.

Probably around 500,000-600,000. I do think the first fight will hurt it some but not too much to cause a massive difference. A 64 second knockout is a 64 second knockout no matter how you slice it, and it clearly wasn't a fluke.
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I won't comment on whether I will buy it or not, since I live in Singapore and stream all the cards anyway.

I believe that the buy rate will be somewhere along 600k-700k buys.

Cain and JDS are not huge PPV draws. Considering that the first fight ended so quickly, I'm sure less people are interested in the fight than before. Many believe that JDS will walk through Cain easily. However, it is the end of the year and I think people are willing to spend some money during this time. The last card of the year has always done decent PPV buy rates. Not to mention that the rest of the card is absolutely stellar.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The PPVs are free on UFC.tv in Germany anyway so I don't have to pay. The quality is not perfect but hey, it's free.

All I know is I probably wouldn't (be able to) pay for PPVs if there were no alternatives.
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I hate how this card gets a bashing because Cain vs Jds 1 lasted 64 seconds..... So what.

Frank Mir vs Brock lesnar Lasted 90 seconds, yet there rematch Didn't get such a panning. Cain vs Jds may only last 1 minute again or 25 minutes but who cares, it's gonna be awesome.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I hate how this card gets a bashing because Cain vs Jds 1 lasted 64 seconds..... So what.

Frank Mir vs Brock lesnar Lasted 90 seconds, yet there rematch Didn't get such a panning. Cain vs Jds may only last 1 minute again or 25 minutes but who cares, it's gonna be awesome.
JDS/Cain and Mir/Lesnar are not comparable at all.
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Instead of paying the ridiculous prices for PPV's go to a bar and watch them all for free, then use the money saved towards buying beer and tipping that waitress with the really short mini skirt.

Not that I have ******* opinion or anything.
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I hate how this card gets a bashing because Cain vs Jds 1 lasted 64 seconds..... So what.

Frank Mir vs Brock lesnar Lasted 90 seconds, yet there rematch Didn't get such a panning. Cain vs Jds may only last 1 minute again or 25 minutes but who cares, it's gonna be awesome.
Read the original post.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I think it will do better than some may expect, but it would be on the strength on the rest of the card, as the Main Card before the Main Event is pretty damn good.
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