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Old 12-31-2012, 09:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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But that English girl is second generation Canadian/English.
My fiance is German-born Turkish.. it doesn't matter where my son is born he will be English
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:19 AM   #22 (permalink)

 
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Toxic you have to try and see it from Cain's and his families perspective.

Imagine this scenario, the young and single Toxic gets a great job offer, you have to move to London (England, not Ontario), you go all carpe diem and take the job, whilst there you meet an English girl get married and have a son.. your son is not Canadian?
If he was born and raised outside of Canada then no he would not be Canadian. My Wife is Canadian she was born and raised in Canada she is neither American or Mexican.
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:36 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If he was born and raised outside of Canada then no he would not be Canadian. My Wife is Canadian she was born and raised in Canada she is neither American or Mexican.
Your son would be eligable to hold a Canadian passport and represent Canada in the Olympics (example used before for Cain), even if he was born and raised in England.. he would have as much right as anybody from Canada to be Canadian.

I can't imagine any scenario where my son would not be English - because i am English, Cain's father is Mexican and Cain has every right to be Mexican - he is Mexican, ontop of this to my knowledge he has never said anything bad about the US.

I really don't get this argument, these things are personal choice.
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Your son would be eligable to hold a Canadian passport and represent Canada in the Olympics (example used before for Cain), even if he was born and raised in England.. he would have as much right as anybody from Canada to be Canadian.

I can't imagine any scenario where my son would not be English - because i am English, Cain's father is Mexican and Cain has every right to be Mexican - he is Mexican, ontop of this to my knowledge he has never said anything bad about the US.

I really don't get this argument, these things are personal choice.
Its really not a personal choice though. That concept in general is what offends me. You are born in a country you lived there were a part of that society, when you were sick you went to there hospitals, when your family was unemployed you got the money from there government, you worked there and payed taxes there and enjoyed all the freedoms that are provided by that country.

He may not say anything bad about the US but to me just to prance around with another countries flag is insulting IMO because in a sense I see it as paying tribute to a country but not the one that provided you with your quality of life.

This is kinda the issue many Canadians have with Quebec because many don't pay tribute to Canada but merely Quebec despite the fact that they take advantage of all the things being Candian provides them with.
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Dudes, Mexico is just a country.
You're all acting as if it was race-related or something.

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If Cain is Mexican so is Cruz.
Why isn't the ufc pushing for Cruz as the mex champ?
He's been champ since forever.
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Why isn't the ufc pushing for Cruz as the mex champ?
He's been champ since forever.
Because he looks more white than hispanic.
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Dudes, Mexico is just a country.
You're all acting as if it was race-related or something.



Why isn't the ufc pushing for Cruz as the mex champ?
He's been champ since forever.
I see your bullshit statement and raise you this:

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Because he looks more white than hispanic.
All Hispanics look white, in fact they're white.
You should go to spain or watch spanish tv shows.

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Latinos represent pretty much all races. I'm Latino but look Italian or Jewish, so I guess I'm on the lighter spectrum. The only real thing that ties them together is language, and even then there are different tongues and dialects.
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Cains very own father, his own flesh and blood is a Mexican man who doesn't even speak English. His Mother is a Mexican-American. Cain has every god damn right to label himself as a Mexican fighter and be proud of his roots. He has Mexican blood running through his veins. Stop saying Cain has no link to Mexico what so ever, because that is an absolute load of nonsense.

I'm English, doesn't matter what god damn country I move to and live in and have a child born there, that child will be English too. Simple as that.
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