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View Poll Results: should a point be deducted for that move?
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12-30-2012, 04:03 PM
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Notice Melvin is holding onto Varner, Melvin not Varner is in control of Melvins head. That means its not a spike which means no point deduction.
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12-30-2012, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Toxic
Notice Melvin is holding onto Varner, Melvin not Varner is in control of Melvins head. That means its not a spike which means no point deduction.
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Ok, if those are the rules, then i agree that points should not have had been deducted. Thanks for the enlightenment on the matter.
However, i do feel that Varner knew Melvin was hiting the ground with his head in a brutal way and i feel that due to the danger of a serious injury, that should be taken into account when evaluating/preventing this kind of situations.
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12-30-2012, 05:58 PM
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If Alex Shelly can do an Air Raid Crash in TNA, this should be allowed.
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12-30-2012, 06:41 PM
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Ok, if those are the rules, then i agree that points should not have had been deducted. Thanks for the enlightenment on the matter.
However, i do feel that Varner knew Melvin was hiting the ground with his head in a brutal way and i feel that due to the danger of a serious injury, that should be taken into account when evaluating/preventing this kind of situations.
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Varner likely knew Guilliard was gonna hit the ground in a bad way but by that token its Melvin's responsibility to defend and protect himself. Melvin put himself in a risky position in order to try and obtain a more advantageous position. Your suggesting that Varner should allow Guilliard to get that position because defending it would either force Melvin to release the position or take a dangerous impact.
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12-31-2012, 12:12 AM
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Melvin could have put his arms down to break his fall if he wanted to. Apparently he didn't feel it was necessary.
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12-31-2012, 12:30 AM
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However, i do feel that Varner knew Melvin was hiting the ground with his head in a brutal way and i feel that due to the danger of a serious injury, that should be taken into account when evaluating/preventing this kind of situations.
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Everything they do can cause serious injury. Your primary job is to stay safe, whether it means tapping to a sub, keeping your hands up when striking, or stopping your head from crashing into the mat. |
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12-31-2012, 12:41 AM
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Two points every fight for those two star tattoos on his shoulders, but not for the little back suplex move.
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12-31-2012, 01:46 AM
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they both should have been dq'd for their post fight bromance/borderline dry humping
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12-31-2012, 06:16 AM
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Yes. shit is dangerous.
But at the same time. I'm glad he won.
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12-31-2012, 09:50 AM
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Surely you guys know why i'm asking this...
I do know that spiking a guy on his head is illegal and not only that it is also a very dangerous thing to do.
He could have broken Melvin's neck.
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When I saw it I hoped he had not broke Melvin's neck, it looked dangerous as hell. As Toxic pointed out though, Melvin was in control of Varner he could have let go at any time to protect himself.
I think those throws Rustam Khabilov was using in his last fight were more dangerous, because he was trapping the guy's arm when he suplexed them. There are a lot of moves these guys do that could seriously injure someone.
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Should Jamie Varner have had a point deducted?
