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post #11 of 48 (permalink) Old 12-31-2012, 01:44 AM
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I'm sure it's there, he was probably afraid of working off his back against a guy like Cain.

Did you guys see what Cain did to Bigfoot? How did his Black belt and working off his back turn out?

I'm wondering how many of the condescending armchair critics in here would like to "work calmly off their backs" while being massacred by Cain. Cain isn't Sonnen, his opponents look like halloween costumes after spending 5 mins on the ground with him unlike Sonnen's.

I hope JDS works on his striking defense and cardio, that was a pretty bad showing but I hope he comes back stronger for the inevitable rubber match.
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If he would have tried to work off his back he would have lost much worse than he did, probably even finished. JDS' "black belt" has got to be amongst the worse in MMA.

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He just got his blackbelt. I would chalk it up to lack of real life inexperience. JDS is a guy who would rather stand up and fight, and if it went to the ground he would just take the back and throw shots. He could have all that practice time, but if you dont go in a BJJ Tourney or MMA fight and grapple with someone that is going at 100% and trying to take your arm off, you are going to look a little lost when the time does come.

In a sense, im saying that having only 13 seconds total on his back before this fight could have hindered him in the end. He is going to realize he needs his BJJ now and make an effort to actually use it somewhere when he has the chance on his way back to the top.
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I'm sure his gameplan was to standup. Seeing what Cain's done to guys on the ground before and the fact that Junior should have had a significant standup advantage is probably why he did stand up every time.

Not to mention, JDS was in survival mode most of the time. He reverted to what he trained to do... which was standup if taken down.

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I really don't care for a 3rd fight given how one sided this beating was, hopefully reem can shake things up a bit since cormier will be a lhw, barnett is interesting too if he can fluke a TD because he has very very good top position catch wrasslin and bjj

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JDS was working off of his survival instinct after the right hand, and throwing bombs requires less thought than cinching in an omoplata.

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man i was sure he was using his jits to stand up... guess i was wrong though.

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Just went and rewatched the fight (third time), and it's very obvious to me that Junior wanted nothing to do with Cain on top of him. Cain probably would have had 3 or 4 more takedowns if Junior wasn't holding the fence while Cain was going for it. The pace is what killed him, being on his back was just the last nail in the coffin really.
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post #19 of 48 (permalink) Old 12-31-2012, 04:19 AM
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If JDS's jujitsu was better than Mir's (as his trainer said), then he certainly could've offered more resistance on the ground. I, and imo others, may have overrated JDS's jujitsu.

This could lead to an interesting match up with Werdum. Werdum just neutralizes everyone on the ground. He's one of the only fighters that welcomes a fight in his guard. Props to Cain!
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Why would you want to even try to work from guard with Cain on top of you?

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