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Old 12-31-2012, 04:00 PM   #41 (permalink)
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IMO, he was already starting to slow down by the time he got rocked. I've actually questioned JDS's cardio for a while now. It's good enough to coast to a decision if he doesn't get the finish in the 1st, but it's not nearly good enough to keep up Cain's pace for 3 rounds let alone 5.
Well I don't think anyone in the HW division is up to that task with Cain.... but my thought is if JDS can figure out one of the other two items. He might force another early stoppage.
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Them 8 horrible takedown attempts were meant, Cain was shooting for anything so Jds would drop his hands. Very smart by Cain.
Nope, Cain couldn't put JDS down so he decided to strike JDS in the face.
Good thing cuz apparently JDS left his brain in the locker room and refused to protect himself or listen to his coach.

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Heh, I think you may be on to something.
No way in hell Cain would not finish an opponent after landing a punch like that, and JDS did nothing the whole fight, even before being rocked and finished.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:08 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Im trying to figure out why JDS has to win two fights against STIFF competition when Cain got a rematch after one fight against BigFoot who has proven nothing in the UFC and not a whole lot In Strikeforce? Does anyone else read how ridiculous some of these comments are?
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Im trying to figure out why JDS has to win two fights against STIFF competition when Cain got a rematch after one fight against BigFoot who has proven nothing in the UFC and not a whole lot In Strikeforce? Does anyone else read how ridiculous some of these comments are?
Because a hail mary punch/flash ko can be landed by anybody. Cain beat JDS up for 25 minutes straight. I think 25 minutes of pure domination proves more than 64 seconds of even exchanges until one fighter gets caught. There is nothing to say that JDS can beat the current Cain after watching that fight.

The reason why he should wait two is because Werdum and Overeem are knocking on the door right now and I think they both should get their shots before JDS has a rematch.
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I dont necessarily disagree with the second part but to me the comments still dont make sense. Cain didnt fight anyone even ranked before his rematch. I can see because of Werdum and Reem but....It still just seems like the UFC wanted to hype its LATINO PRIDE crap which to me is embarrassing for the sport. RIcco Rodriguez might have something to say about the supposed "First Latino HEavy Weight Champ".
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I dont necessarily disagree with the second part but to me the comments still dont make sense. Cain didnt fight anyone even ranked before his rematch. I can see because of Werdum and Reem but....It still just seems like the UFC wanted to hype its LATINO PRIDE crap which to me is embarrassing for the sport. RIcco Rodriguez might have something to say about the supposed "First Latino HEavy Weight Champ".
Yeah they did want Cain back in there with JDS as soon as possible, but JDS was meant to fight Alistair instead. Werdum hadn't emerged as a true top contender in the UFC yet and Cain throughly destroyed Bigfoot. Who else were they going to give JDS? They already gave him Mir which was a ridiculous matchup.

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Because a hail mary punch/flash ko can be landed by anybody. Cain beat JDS up for 25 minutes straight. I think 25 minutes of pure domination proves more than 64 seconds of even exchanges until one fighter gets caught. There is nothing to say that JDS can beat the current Cain after watching that fight.

The reason why he should wait two is because Werdum and Overeem are knocking on the door right now and I think they both should get their shots before JDS has a rematch.
Christ.... not this again. People with KO records like JDS don't throw hail mary lucky punches. Just go ahead and throw this ridiculious thought process out of your brain before it's too late.

Have you skipped every thread tonight? We've spent all day exlaining why everything you just said is wrong.

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Christ.... not this again. People with KO records JDS don't throw hail mary lucky punches. Just go ahead and throw this ridiculious thought process out of your brain before it's too late.

Have you skipped every thread tonight? We've spent all day exlaining why everything you just said is wrong.
What I said is not wrong in any way, shape or form.

It is my opinion that a 25 minute beat down outweighs a 64 second KO. If you don't agree, that's fine, but it sure as hell doesn't make me incorrect.

I've seen fighters with far less ability recover better than Junior did during the Cain fight, it has more to do with Cain being the better fighter and not giving Junior the time or space to recover.

Cain was just getting up as the first fight was stopped, if it had kept going you never know how Cain would have recovered, he never got the chance.

What if Herb stopped the second fight after Cain had initially dropped JDS and followed up with heavy GnP?
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What I said is not wrong in any way, shape or form.

It is my opinion that a 25 minute beat down outweighs a 64 second KO. If you don't agree, that's fine, but it sure as hell doesn't make me incorrect.

I've seen fighters with far less ability recover better than Junior did during the Cain fight, it has more to do with Cain being the better fighter and not giving Junior the time or space to recover.

Cain was just getting up as the first fight was stopped, if it had kept going you never know how Cain would have recovered, he never got the chance.

What if Herb stopped the second fight after Cain had initially dropped JDS and followed up with heavy GnP?
Herb would have saved JDS a few thousand brain cells and we wouldn't have known how strong of a will he has.

Not many other fighters would have got up after that first punch whether you think so or not.
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What I said is not wrong in any way, shape or form.

It is my opinion that a 25 minute beat down outweighs a 64 second KO. If you don't agree, that's fine, but it sure as hell doesn't make me incorrect.

I've seen fighters with far less ability recover better than Junior did during the Cain fight, it has more to do with Cain being the better fighter and not giving Junior the time or space to recover.

Cain was just getting up as the first fight was stopped, if it had kept going you never know how Cain would have recovered, he never got the chance.

What if Herb stopped the second fight after Cain had initially dropped JDS and followed up with heavy GnP?
The beatdown was due to Cain's inability to finish, its not really a slight on him as he doesn't have massive ko power. In the first fight if JDS had GNP'd Cain then let him recover and continue he'd have probably still kept beating him silly except he ended it.

All fighters are throwing strikes with bad intentions, if it wins you the fight its a great dominating moment. Flukes and freaks are resigned to stuff like Cote blowing his knee out and Maynard Ko'ing himself.
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