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Old 12-31-2012, 09:16 PM   #51 (permalink)
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The beatdown was due to Cain's inability to finish, its not really a slight on him as he doesn't have massive ko power. In the first fight if JDS had GNP'd Cain then let him recover and continue he'd have probably still kept beating him silly except he ended it.

All fighters are throwing strikes with bad intentions, if it wins you the fight its a great dominating moment. Flukes and freaks are resigned to stuff like Cote blowing his knee out and Maynard Ko'ing himself.
I don't recall every saying it was a fluke. I said Cain got caught. Cain proved that he can catch Junior in the second fight.

You have no idea what would have happened if the first fight hadn't have been stopped, Cain very well could've weathered the storm and won the fight. We weren't given the opportunity to find out.

Either way i'm happy for a 3rd fight, I just want JDS to patch up those holes in his game first.
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:19 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I don't recall every saying it was a fluke. I said Cain got caught. Cain proved that he can catch Junior in the second fight.

You have no idea what would have happened if the first fight hadn't have been stopped, Cain very well could've weathered the storm and won the fight. We weren't given the opportunity to find out.

Either way i'm happy for a 3rd fight, I just want JDS to patch up those holes in his game first.
I was more referring to the 25 minute beatdown, if Cain had dropped JDS and finished him in the 1st what is more impressive, a Cain 1st round finish or 25 mins?

I mean he looked great but I don't think you can instantly dismiss the quick KO, JDS is a knockout guy, you can't discredit quick wins for him.

BTW I'm not being arsey just voicing my opnion
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I was more referring to the 25 minute beatdown, if Cain had dropped JDS and finished him in the 1st what is more impressive, a Cain 1st round finish or 25 mins?

I mean he looked great but I don't think you can instantly dismiss the quick KO, JDS is a knockout guy, you can't discredit quick wins for him.

BTW I'm not being arsey just voicing my opnion
No worries my friend, I love a good discussion.

I'm not dismissing the quick KO, it was very impressive, just personally I am more impressed by a 25 minute beat down. I don't think many people would have complained if Herb stopped the fight in the first round.
I also think that if the first fight was left to go on then we may have had a different result, I am just speculating, but I would have liked to see if Cain could have recovered in that situation.
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