View Poll Results: Who wins the rubber match?

OU · 12-31-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOM

Sorry but I actually like JDS, it's just I've always believed he was nothing more then a one dimensional fighter and this coming. He does'nt have what it takes even though his one dimension might be one of the best in that specific category.

JDS without his striking can't win against fighters who can win in many different ways like Cain can do.

JDS has alot of wins over top level fighters. 9-1 in the UFC with wins over Werdum, Cain, Mir, Carwin, Nelson, Struve, Gonzaga and Cro Cop. If he didn't have the game to compete in MMA we would have seen it already. You are putting too much into 1 fight and completely forgetting what JDS has accomplished.

avengedsixfold · 12-31-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOM

Sorry but I actually like JDS, it's just I've always believed he was nothing more then a one dimensional fighter and this coming. He does'nt have what it takes even though his one dimension might be one of the best in that specific category.

JDS without his striking can't win against fighters who can win in many different ways like Cain can do.

Disagree, he got up well which is using his BJJ, he defends takedowns well using his counter wrestling. Yes he has a strength that he goes to a lot but so he should. Train more with wrestlers, work on limiting GNP damage and improve boxing defence. The next fight is going to be great!

BOOM · 12-31-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OUSOONERSOU

JDS has alot of wins over top level fighters. 9-1 in the UFC with wins over Werdum, Cain, Mir, Carwin, Nelson, Struve, Gonzaga and Cro Cop. If he didn't have the game to compete in MMA we would have seen it already. You are putting too much into 1 fight and completely forgetting what JDS has accomplished.

Wrong, I haven't forgotten what JDS has accomplished. I'm calling what JDS is the way I see it. He is a one dimensional fighter with nonexistent secondary tools to overcome superior fighters if plan A fails. It couldn't more obvious.

**footodors** · 12-31-2012, 01:56 PM

No clinch game + no ground game + bad cardio + no defense= Puncher's chance only against Cain.

OU · 12-31-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOM

Wrong, I haven't forgotten what JDS has accomplished. I'm calling what JDS is the way I see it. He is a one dimensional fighter with nonexistent secondary tools to overcome superior fighters if plan A fails. It couldn't more obvious.

So you are saying there is only 1 fighter that is able to expose JDS as a one dimensional fighter? Since all the other top level fighters he fought got dominated by JDS.

BOOM · 12-31-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by avengedsixfold

Disagree, he got up well which is using his BJJ, he defends takedowns well using his counter wrestling. Yes he has a strength that he goes to a lot but so he should. Train more with wrestlers, work on limiting GNP damage and improve boxing defence. The next fight is going to be great!

LOL, what BJJ?

Take away and or avoid JDS' greatest strength (stand up boxing) and JDS has nothing. He's so far off from being a complete fighter it's not even funny.

BOOM · 12-31-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OUSOONERSOU

So you are saying there is only 1 fighter that is able to expose JDS as a one dimensional fighter? Since all the other top level fighters he fought got dominated by JDS.

Care to list all these other dimensions JDS is really good at other then his stand up?

avengedsixfold · 12-31-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by footodors

No clinch game + no ground game + bad cardio + no defense= Puncher's chance only against Cain.

Thats a pretty idiotic thing to come out with! He's fought big hitters, good ground guys. I mean against Nelson I was impressed with is cardio as he literally threw the kitchen sink at that man.

I think what you should have said in your equation was:

if(rounds < 3 && noConcussiveBlowsRecieved == true) {
JDS Chance = 70%
}else {
JDS chance = 90%
}

It was all about Cain's switching it up and relentless pressure.

avengedsixfold · 12-31-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOM

LOL, what BJJ?

Take away and or avoid JDS' greatest strength (stand up boxing) and JDS has nothing. He's so far off from being a complete fighter it's not even funny.

Um the ability to stand up, call it wrestling/bjj/grappling I think he actually did well with stuffing the shots and getting up after being so rocked. All this against the best wrestler/mma fighter currently in the UFC Heavyweight division.

If we play this game it's easy, take away Cain's wrestling, what would happen then? He'd get KO'd by JDS. JDS is the better striker but with the threat of takedowns and Cain mixing it up he more than levels the field

BOOM · 12-31-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by avengedsixfold

Um the ability to stand up, call it wrestling/bjj/grappling I think he actually did well with stuffing the shots and getting up after being so rocked. All this against the best wrestler/mma fighter currently in the UFC Heavyweight division.

If we play this game it's easy, take away Cain's wrestling, what would happen then? He'd get KO'd by JDS. JDS is the better striker but with the threat of takedowns and Cain mixing it up he more than levels the field

Did you miss the rest of the fight where Cain was throwing him around like a rag doll at will and JDS couldn't do anything to stop it?