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post #61 of 84 (permalink) Old 12-31-2012, 09:07 PM
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Funny joke man!

You might want to remove the quotation marks next time, it implies that Cain claimed it.
Quotation marks don't imply the quotee... simple that the statement was quoted. The quotation marks were for the video... I'm sorry you seemed to interpreted that incorrectly.
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Quotation marks don't imply the quotee... simple that the statement was quoted. The quotation marks were for the video... I'm sorry you seemed to interpreted that incorrectly.
I may have misinterpreted, and if I have I apologise. I do feel that many others will interpret it in the same way I did though.

Also to anybody that hasn't seen the video or doesn't know about it, it would definitely appear that you are quoting Cain.







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I may have misinterpreted, and if I have I apologise. I do feel that many others will interpret it in the same way I did though.

Also to anybody that hasn't seen the video or doesn't know about it, it would definitely appear that you are quoting Cain.
Hmmm maybe... well it was definitely about the video. That's why funny
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Let me give a clue to this gent that states JDS is an one dimensional fighter by giving a clear example of an one dimensional fighter fighting an MMA match, so he can refine his parameters: James Toney
Guy is a deadly boxer with absolute no other skills and stated he would destroy Coulture in an MMA match. Nice try...

Now, JDS is versed in all major martial arts and techniques available today. He trains everything in a full camp with great coaches/masters in several arts. However, his fighting style is to box and to KO ppl. But he needs and uses his other skills to allow him to maintain the fight where he wants and that has been proven successful until this last single bout. So to say this incredibly successful athlete, who dismantled every opponent, including Cain, is one dimensional because of his last performance MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

In before. Cain is UNABLE to take JDS down and keep him there while JDS is fully awake. It's JDS's wrestling training that makes his TDD superb and it's his BJJ that makes him stand as soon as possible when the first fails. One dimensional? If he is an one dimensional fighter, lets say, just a boxer, as claimed, what on earth made him avoid getting finished for five freaking rounds against no one less than Cain Freaking Velasquez? Which pure boxer would do that, bro?
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I have JDS. While it was a great plan by Cain, as I said before the fight, I just had a feeling that his timing would work. That doesnt make him the better boxer. Cain was landing a nice jab, but was lunging in like crazy with the back hand. If JDS had a little bit more time, the counter would have been so easy to take. Cain landing the huge overhand which basically put JDS out this time, but the odds of him doing so again would be quite slim I'd say. JDS will sharpen up his defence and block the jabs on his arms, keeping out of range of Cain's backhand and like the last fight, easily defending weak takedowns without much effort. It would take Cain rocking him again to actually get the fight to the ground, and that's where JDS lost all of his energy. I just don't see the start of the fight going the same way. In grappling and takedown defence, JDS is more than capable of getting seperation and avoiding being dragged down and if he can take the advanatge in strikes, which he should have been able to in the first fight, I see him winning a very close decision next time. Cain I imagine will give up the takedowns and turn to strikes. His chin will be praised for his endurance and in say the third round, he'll start landing big back on JDS with the rest of the rounds being close. His enegry will be down there with JDS' going late into the fight because JDS will be ripping into him with body shots, to which Joe Rogan takes a lot of notice.

Hey, might seem like an overly exact prediction...but worked out pretty well last time eh?

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Let me give a clue to this gent that states JDS is an one dimensional fighter by giving a clear example of an one dimensional fighter fighting an MMA match, so he can refine his parameters: James Toney
Guy is a deadly boxer with absolute no other skills and stated he would destroy Coulture in an MMA match. Nice try...

Now, JDS is versed in all major martial arts and techniques available today. He trains everything in a full camp with great coaches/masters in several arts. However, his fighting style is to box and to KO ppl. But he needs and uses his other skills to allow him to maintain the fight where he wants and that has been proven successful until this last single bout. So to say this incredibly successful athlete, who dismantled every opponent, including Cain, is one dimensional because of his last performance MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

In before. Cain is UNABLE to take JDS down and keep him there while JDS is fully awake. It's JDS's wrestling training that makes his TDD superb and it's his BJJ that makes him stand as soon as possible when the first fails. One dimensional? If he is an one dimensional fighter, lets say, just a boxer, as claimed, what on earth made him avoid getting finished for five freaking rounds against no one less than Cain Freaking Velasquez? Which pure boxer would do that, bro?
That's crazy.
JDS' TDD and BJJ is one of the biggest myths in all of MMA. What JDS really is is an incredibly fast striker with his hands who takes advantage of his opponents before they're able to do anything to him. Take this one dimension away from JDS (much like Cain did Saturday night) and he's not even a top 10 HW.

There's a reason Werdum made the comment he did about JDS' BJJ. It does'nt exist.
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His TDD is a myth? Then why was Cain rolling around the floor looking ridiculous before he landed that big shot? I agree his BJJ is overrated though.

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His TDD is a myth? Then why was Cain rolling around the floor looking ridiculous before he landed that big shot? I agree his BJJ is overrated though.

It might look ridiculous to people who don't understand MMA but that's just grappling/wrestling, not everything has to look pretty. It's completely normal that it's not going to work every time during a fight.
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It might look ridiculous to people who don't understand MMA but that's just grappling/wrestling, not everything has to look pretty. It's completely normal that it's not going to work every time during a fight.
But Cain is a great wrestler. He wasnt even getting close to a takedown because JDS' TDD was dope. Cain looked ridiculous because JDS completley stuffed his takedowns and left him on the floor clutching a foot. JDS weakness in that fight was his stand up (mainly defence) and his cardio.

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Why is this guy acting like JDS is a glorified Mark Hunt right now? His takedown defense is clearly better then a vast majority of HWs given that he was able to shake Cain off multiple times even after being completely rocked in the first. Ah well, to each their own.
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