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BOOM 12-31-2012 12:45 PM

JDS vs Cain, Chapter 3
 
After now witnessing their last two fights and you're betting your house on the outcome who wins the rubber match?


Cain for me, no question.

GlassJaw 12-31-2012 12:55 PM

I like JDS better, but I feel like Cain's pace is too relentless and his gas tank is too good for any heavyweight to beat him bar a fast knockout. The first fight Cain just needed a new gameplan for their second meeting. In the rubber match JDS will have to improve cardio substantially and work on BJJ and clinchwork. It's a lot more development for him.

OU 12-31-2012 01:02 PM

I personally think JDS was rocked badly and fought the middle rounds in a daze. He showed tremendous heart but he was already beaten badly enough to wear his body could no longer keep up. I think the 3rd fight will be an amazing fight. I see it as fight were both fighters will have success at some point unlike the first 2 matchups. I think JDS can fix the holes and he still has the ability to finish. I don't think Cain can finish off JDS after watching this last fight. I think it's going to be a war but I see JDS coming out on top again.

LL 12-31-2012 01:04 PM

Believe Junior can beat him in a third fight.

BOOM 12-31-2012 01:13 PM

Unless someone uploads all the martial arts and appropriate skills straight to JDS's brain like they did to Neo in the Matrix to fix his nonexistent MMA skills he does'nt stand a chance other then landing a lucky punch in my opinion.

In other words JDS needs a miracle. Cain by vicious beating again, probably even more worse then the first time.

MMA-Sportsman 12-31-2012 01:26 PM

I also don't think cardio had nothing to do with JDS performance. He was hit with several bombs which prevented him from being effective in any other area but surviving.

JDS has only one thing to adjust. Only one. He needs to find a way of protecting his face while defending TDs. More combos will be wellcome as well, but if he can protect his face, that will do it.

As mentioned before. Cain wrestling alone is uneffective to take JDS down and keep him there. It's pathetically uneffective against JDS, TBH, even though he is a powerful wrestler and Cain realized that in the very first round, smartly and successfully changing his game plan to hit a surprisingly defenseless JDS to dazziness and then, only then, having the advantage to rag doll him.

And during this ragdolling, even more incredibly powerful clean shots were landed and JDS went nowhere.

Greatness is difficult to reach and deal with sometimes. I think JDS entered overconfident for this match and didn't prepare for possible variations. I personally found him a little cocky during the weigh ins (normal stuff, but maybe not used to see coming from him), promising to knock out Cain as he would just pass through him like the first time.

This loss will be good to him.

avengedsixfold 12-31-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOM (Post 1664220)
Unless someone uploads all the martial arts and appropriate skills straight to JDS's brain like they did to Neo in the Matrix to fix his nonexistent MMA skills he does'nt stand a chance other then landing a lucky punch in my opinion.

In other words JDS needs a miracle. Cain by vicious beating again, probably even more worse then the first time.

Man, don't be so negative. Why can't you just say 'Cain has his number and fought really well', whats with knocking the other guy? If anything surely that'd make Cain's victory less impressive if JDS is as bad as you say :confused02:

St.Paul Guy 12-31-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOM (Post 1664220)
Unless someone uploads all the martial arts and appropriate skills straight to JDS's brain like they did to Neo in the Matrix to fix his nonexistent MMA skills he does'nt stand a chance other then landing a lucky punch in my opinion.

In other words JDS needs a miracle. Cain by vicious beating again, probably even more worse then the first time.

Troll much?

Cain's a very slight favorite in the next fight IMO. People need to realize that heavyweight fights are very rarely close, and the first guy to land something big usually wins. You can't put too much stock into how bad JDS looked for the majority of the last fight. Remember how easily he stuffed Cain's takedowns at the beginning?

BOOM 12-31-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by avengedsixfold (Post 1664231)
Man, don't be so negative. Why can't you just say 'Cain has his number and fought really well', whats with knocking the other guy? If anything surely that'd make Cain's victory less impressive if JDS is as bad as you say :confused02:

Sorry but I actually like JDS, it's just I've always believed he was nothing more then a one dimensional fighter and this coming. He does'nt have what it takes even though his one dimension might be one of the best in that specific category.

JDS without his striking can't win against fighters who can win in many different ways like Cain can do.

BOOM 12-31-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by St.Paul Guy (Post 1664234)
Troll much?

Cain's a very slight favorite in the next fight IMO. People need to realize that heavyweight fights are very rarely close, and the first guy to land something big usually wins. You can't put too much stock into how bad JDS looked for the majority of the last fight. Remember how easily he stuffed Cain's takedowns at the beginning?

Nope, JDS's only chance is to land another wild haymaker. Other then that he's got nothing on Cain despite the outcome of their first fight. Sorry if the truth got you upset.

And yes you can put a lot of stock to how badly JDS got beat up, his face was literally broken and his soul was stolen. That's what happens when you run into a superior fighter and don't have all the necessary tools.


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