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Old 01-03-2013, 05:44 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Lmao... Adderall... really???

I have a few friends who were on Adderall since middle school cause of their ADHD and even their not addicted to it. They actually prefer not taking it if they didnt act so freaking hyper without it.

One of my friends actually gave me a whole bottle when i asked him about giving me a few to see what its like. And quiet honestly i didnt feel anything... maybe a slight caffein type feeling but thats about it. I still actually have the pills in a drawer 5 years later... and thats after giving a bunch away to a lady friend who wanted to take them to "Help with her HW" (Yea im sure).

So this is quiet funny to me and i like to think its not true haha.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:42 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Lmao... Adderall... really???

I have a few friends who were on Adderall since middle school cause of their ADHD and even their not addicted to it. They actually prefer not taking it if they didnt act so freaking hyper without it.

One of my friends actually gave me a whole bottle when i asked him about giving me a few to see what its like. And quiet honestly i didnt feel anything... maybe a slight caffein type feeling but thats about it. I still actually have the pills in a drawer 5 years later... and thats after giving a bunch away to a lady friend who wanted to take them to "Help with her HW" (Yea im sure).

So this is quiet funny to me and i like to think its not true haha.
Riveting personal story fellow, do you have any more to share with us?
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:08 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Im a pharmacy major, and I'll just be blunt about it. Adderall isn't exactly "easy" to get hooked on like most opiates, benzos and amphetamines are. I suspect Goldie was probably taking double or triple the dosage recommendation on his bottle for an extended period of time. Definitely an odd situation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Adderall in this case was much like how the NFL covers up its drug abusers. It's likely to me he got hooked on something else and the UFC is simply giving him his privacy on this one.

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i have add and take a rather small dose. I just dont like their pharmaceutical shit.

to use the alphabet as an analogy. Without taking the meds, i might get to b,c or d, with them i am much more likely to finish it. I can quite clearly state, that i will never be addicted to these pills, they make my day a bit easier, but it is not something i am remotely close to being addicted to. I do remember the first pill and i wss high as a kite.! Trained, cleaned my appartment, did the dishes and the laundry. I could see why someone would want that feeling, all day everyday, but i like my days to be more calm,

If weed cant cause physical addiction, then why does the body sweat, feel sick and lose appetite etc, when weed junkies quit? Of course it is addictive, both physically and mentally and i could care less about, what some random study tells. All those are physical reactions. Once again, PHYSICAL REACTIONS.!

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Feel sorry for Goldie and hope he's better soon, I know exactly what he's going through and it's emotionally, mentally and physically draining going through rehab.

All the best to him.
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i have add and take a rather small dose. I just dont like their pharmaceutical shit.

to use the alphabet as an analogy. Without taking the meds, i might get to b,c or d, with them i am much more likely to finish it. I can quite clearly state, that i will never be addicted to these pills, they make my day a bit easier, but it is not something i am remotely close to being addicted to. I do remember the first pill and i wss high as a kite.! Trained, cleaned my appartmene, did the dishes and the laundry. I could see why someone would want that feeling, all day everyday, but i like my days to be more calm,

If weed cant cause physical addiction, then why does the body sweat, feel sick and lose appetite etc, when weed junkies quit? Of course it is addictive, both physically and mentally and i could care less about, what some random study tells. All those are physical reactions. Once again, PHYSICAL REACTIONS.!

I'll start out this post by saying I'm not trying to drag this thread off topic and I smoke like once a month so I'm not the typical pothead defending weed here.

That being said, the symptoms you are describing at least from actute marijuana detox are exceedingly rare. The people that get themselves in actual issues with pot are the ones smoking multiple times a day, but more importantly allowing others to influence them into other drugs. Many wil never admit to cocaine use, but will freely admit to pot use. This misleads people around them into thinking marijuana is causing more serious symptoms. I don't believe in legalization for all recreational purposes, but a regulated medical system makes too much sense to me.
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If weed cant cause physical addiction, then why does the body sweat, feel sick and lose appetite etc, when weed junkies quit? Of course it is addictive, both physically and mentally and i could care less about, what some random study tells. All those are physical reactions. Once again, PHYSICAL REACTIONS.!
^Normally people who are heavy weed smokers can quit smoking weed with just a day or two of minor adverse effects. Even if they quit cold turkey they'd be fine without meds within a short time. The same can't be said about nicotine, alcohol, opiods or benzodiazepines. All in all weed addiction is a lot more psychological than physical.

That said, even psychological addictions can cause symptoms of withdrawal.

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If weed cant cause physical addiction, then why does the body sweat, feel sick and lose appetite etc, when weed junkies quit? Of course it is addictive, both physically and mentally and i could care less about, what some random study tells. All those are physical reactions. Once again, PHYSICAL REACTIONS.!
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I'll start out this post by saying I'm not trying to drag this thread off topic and I smoke like once a month so I'm not the typical pothead defending weed here.

That being said, the symptoms you are describing at least from actute marijuana detox are exceedingly rare. The people that get themselves in actual issues with pot are the ones smoking multiple times a day, but more importantly allowing others to influence them into other drugs. Many wil never admit to cocaine use, but will freely admit to pot use. This misleads people around them into thinking marijuana is causing more serious symptoms. I don't believe in legalization for all recreational purposes, but a regulated medical system makes too much sense to me.
i seem to recall me using the words "weed junkie", which would leave a person like you, out of such equation

Weed can affect you physically for a long time, People often have a hard time sleeping and that can take a long time to rectify. The body and mind, simply cant relax the way it usually does. The worst period is af course the first week or so.

Nope those reactions arent rare, quite the opposite. Those who smoke on a daily basis and quit, will more often then not, get exactly those physical reactions. If you dont believe me, try it out

it is physically addictive, as i said, otherwise daily users wouldnt have those reactions. Whether or not weed is as bad as other drugs, really wasnt relevant to the point i was making.

we are way of topic it seems, but nevertheless a civil debate, i do not want to take this further off topic and i guess we both expressed our pov. So im out. happy new years to you and a get well to the babbling ufc man
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Everyone is different, and it's totally subjective to the daily dosage (assuming usage is daily). I've known people to be on pretty frequent cocaine usage and just quit one day and bizarrely have zero reaction after, yet I've known people miss their nicotine for half a day and punch the first person they meet.

There isn't always a textbook reaction to drugs.
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