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Old 01-03-2013, 10:25 AM   #51 (permalink)
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The dose makes a poison. And there is a very big difference. For one the stuff you get at the pharmacy is pure and is reasonably dosed. No residue of other substances that might have more adverse effects.

Secondly, heroine and cocaine were used in medicine not very long ago and they're very effective. The reason why they're now blacklisted is because people were/are abusing them. Plus there are safer substances nowadays that are still dangerous but obviously there's a risk/reward situation here. By the way, marijuana is on the very same list in a lot of countries(not in Canada as far as I know).

The problem is knowledge and that's what your pharmacist is supposed to be there for. Sadly in most countries the pharmacist has become just another salesman. That's why I hear "I don't want chemistry, I want something natural." every day. When I tell them that morphine and cocaine is just as natural as tobacco, chocolate, caffeine and alcohol they usually won't believe me.

Poison is poison no matter what the quantity is. Saying that only taking small quantities of cocaine, heroin or meth is okay is nothing but a myth because guess what, you still put poison in your body which in reality does'nt actually cure anything. People only think they feel better because they are stimulated by a drug and are ******* high. Once the substance runs it's course it's back to square one and they'll need another dose to feel "better" again.

Pharma wouldn't be in business if they actually cured anything, they want you coming back just like the thug selling drugs on the street.
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'Speaking a bit of Portuguese there.'

'Uh that's Japanese. You should know that, your wife is Japanese.'

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WTF GOLDIE?!?
So he divorced cuz I thought he once said during a Q&A that his wife is from Canada.
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Man I hope Goldie is OK. And where is the offical story? Can we not get news from Dana or Goldie himself? Also, can we not derail a thread about Goldies apparent ill-health with a debate about cannabis. Especially as there are one or two that have no business discussing it as they are so far wide of the mark its crazy. I pos repped suniis.
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Poison is poison no matter what the quantity is. Saying that only taking small quantities of cocaine, heroin or meth is okay is nothing but a myth because guess what, you still put poison in your body which in reality does'nt actually cure anything. People only think they feel better because they are stimulated by a drug and are ******* high. Once the substance runs it's course it's back to square one and they'll need another dose to feel "better" again.

Pharma wouldn't be in business if they actually cured anything, they want you coming back just like the thug selling drugs on the street.
Oxygen and water are both poisonous in high concentrations. The dose makes everything.

Next time you take antibiotics think about that "they never heal anything" stuff you said. It's true that some diseases just can not be healed yet, like abnormalities in your hormones and basically every disease that affects neurotransmitters so you have to come back every time to get your meds but at least it makes people's lives better for the time being.
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that stuff works the same way cocaine does...it blocks dopamine re uptake. very high potential for abuse. sucks for goldy if its true.

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Everyone is different, and it's totally subjective to the daily dosage (assuming usage is daily). I've known people to be on pretty frequent cocaine usage and just quit one day and bizarrely have zero reaction after, yet I've known people miss their nicotine for half a day and punch the first person they meet.

There isn't always a textbook reaction to drugs.
This. QFT.

The ignorance of some people who speak like they are experts is quite baffling...
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Oxygen and water are both poisonous in high concentrations. The dose makes everything.

Next time you take antibiotics think about that "they never heal anything" stuff you said. It's true that some diseases just can not be healed yet, like abnormalities in your hormones and basically every disease that affects neurotransmitters so you have to come back every time to get your meds but at least it makes people's lives better for the time being.
When's the last time a person has died from too much oxygen or water? Please stop trying to justify everything as a poison and realize there is a huge difference in ingesting too much chocolate and ingesting cocaine. One will kill you instantly if you go a little overboard, the other not so much, even if you go way overboard.

Furthermore antibiotics *help* you fight off only certain bacterias but do nothing for viruses, they aren't a cure and don't heal you, your own body does that. I'll go as far and say they do more damage in the long run because your body becomes reliant on them instead of fighting off disease(s) on it's own. People who take flu shots every year are more susceptible to getting worse flu's because their own system forgets how to do it on it's own. That sounds like a problem to me, not help.
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When's the last time a person has died from too much oxygen or water? Please stop trying to justify everything as a poison and realize there is a huge difference in ingesting too much chocolate and ingesting cocaine. One will kill you instantly if you go a little overboard, the other not so much, even if you go way overboard.

Furthermore antibiotics *help* you fight off only certain bacterias but do nothing for viruses, they aren't a cure and don't heal you, your own body does that. I'll go as far and say they do more damage in the long run because your body becomes reliant on them instead of fighting off disease(s) on it's own. People who take flu shots every year are more susceptible to getting worse flu's because their own system forgets how to do it on it's own. That sounds like a problem to me, not help.
I forgot my tinfoil hat... Can I borrow yours? If you honestly believe antibiotics and vaccines are contrary to a healthy species you are nuts. Small Pox, Polio, Bubonic Plague..... Vaccines and antiobiotics changed history. We may over-use them; but if provided as designed they save lives.
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I forgot my tinfoil hat... Can I borrow yours? If you honestly believe antibiotics and vaccines are contrary to a healthy species you are nuts. Small Pox, Polio, Bubonic Plague..... Vaccines and antiobiotics changed history. We may over-use them; but if provided as designed they save lives.
You need to read over my post(s) again, I said they do help for certain things. They just aren't a cure. Antibiotics only help your body fight off certain infections caused by bacteria (they do nothing against viruses) which are attacking you and prolonging it so that your own body can deal with it.

Knowledge is the most powerful drug of all so you can throw your tinfoil hat away. I certainly don't have one for you to borrow either.
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Im pretty sure goldie had a bad back injury a while back, and knowing myself how they can persist i dont blame him for taking something. He has a pretty hectic schedule and probably feels the heat of young Anik coming on his tail!
Although I woudnt worry too much with Aniks constant use of words like ' winningest' which is about the most horrible way of describing a successful figher i've ever heard. I noticed Anik didnt even mention goldie at all in the pre fight build up.

Keep it together Goldie and get back in the game!
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