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post #91 of 103 (permalink) Old 01-03-2013, 09:30 PM
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I can understand that it's going to take a while before a lot of people will accept the way JDS lost. No one expected him to get completely mauled like that, it was one of the biggest beatings in MMA HW history. Period.
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he dosent deserve one, he got completely dominated worse than benson/diaz
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he dosent deserve one, he got completely dominated worse than benson/diaz
Whilst I agree he doesnt deserve a rematch, neither did Cain, so on that basis JDS should be given the chance again.

How many people really saw the rematch going like that, not many, so to me a 3rd bout is a more interesting idea than the 2nd fight ever looked like it was going to be... until it actually happened.

Will Cain dominate JDS for another 5 rounds? Will JDS catch him and get an early KO? Who knows but I for one would love to see another fight.
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A lot of controversy about this "safe mode" from Cain.

I am a fan of both guys and although I was rooting for Junior, there's no doubt Cain did beat him up pretty soundly. While obviously he could not finish JDS, Cain is definitely a remarkable finisher and in no moment I could say he was merely cruising in this fight. He could very well cruise and still get the undisputed victory by good margin of points, but he did not cruise at all. He continued to TD and to deliver hard punches to JDS.

There's a difference between "playing safe" and adapting the strategy according to many factors which, only in the fight, you will be able to deal with and this is considered fighting IQ. As GR said, JDS did that against Carwin and I remember, although JDS is also a finisher, he could not finish Roy Nelson as well and during the fight he did realise that and adjusted the pace to save gas, while still delivering bombs. No demerit on that strategy, IMO.

Everybody wants to finish a fight and when we are speaking about two entertaining finishers like Cain and JDS, the fact they eventually cannot finish some opponents could very well be an indication of the toughness of these opponents, rather than the winners playing safe.


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Whilst I agree he doesnt deserve a rematch, neither did Cain, so on that basis JDS should be given the chance again.

How many people really saw the rematch going like that, not many, so to me a 3rd bout is a more interesting idea than the 2nd fight ever looked like it was going to be... until it actually happened.

Will Cain dominate JDS for another 5 rounds? Will JDS catch him and get an early KO? Who knows but I for one would love to see another fight.
But cain did have to beat bigfoot badly to get back to JDS so in turn it should be reem vs cain after he kills bigfoot, JDS vs Cormier/Barnett for a shot at champion or big nog/werdum winner


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Cain vs Werdum is the most interesting matchup out there right now in my opinion. I just cant see Overeem being competitive.
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Cain vs Werdum is the most interesting matchup out there right now in my opinion. I just cant see Overeem being competitive.
In your opinion do you think Cain would be afraid of Werdums guard? Cain Kos him if the fight stays on the feet I reckon. Werdums striking hasn't improved as much as some people like to make out. i think Cain would be fairly comfortable in top position as well. He would just have to reeeeeeeeeeeeallly careful.




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Cain vs Werdum is the most interesting matchup out there right now in my opinion. I just cant see Overeem being competitive.
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Cain vs Werdum is the most interesting matchup out there right now in my opinion. I just cant see Overeem being competitive.
I kinda agree, Cain could get and may get ko'd pretty quick by Reem but if he can avoid a real quick ko it might be competitive, Cain does stand a chance.
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It's not that I particularly think Werdum would win. Its just Overeem... I just dont see it being anything other Overeem losing heart in the first 2 minutes.

Plus, there's the romance of it. Fedor had excellent discipline and top control as well, and he got caught in Werdums guard. Overeem stayed well away. I dunno. I just want to see Cain in the guard of a proper BBJ dude... not fecking big foot and his clumsy shit.
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