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Old 01-04-2013, 09:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Be willing to fight him on the ground. Otherwise, Velasquez controls where and whent he fight takes place.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think JDS cannot compete with Cain for cardio. No matter how good JDS cardio gets, Cain´s will be a step ahead because wrestling cardio will beat striking cardio.

JDS needs to make Cain pay more for takedown attempts, hurt him, get him uncomfortable about shooting in. Sprawl and brawl. I still believe JDS is a better striker than Cain, but I think that he needs to respect his striking and cardio if he is going to beat Cain.

That said, JDS has nothing for Cain. Most brazillian fighters in the UFC don´t like to get pressured, accept for Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva. They get all scared when it is not them doing the hitting.

I do believe Cain can be the next Fedor. He is destroying everybody and making them look dumb for stepping into the cage with him.

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Good point on wrestling cardio vs striking cardio although JDS showed he can barely keep up even weathering the storm where everybody else has wilted except for Cheick. Think Cain demolished Rothwell, Brock and Big Foot with those same shots that JDS took for all five rounds. They'll meet again soon.

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He needs to be the aggressor. Cain's game is relentless, varied pressure. If JDS does the same and just tries to counter, he'll be spending most of the fight defending TD's and getting back to his feet, which makes it extremely difficult to get any sort of striking going not to mention allows Cain to surprise him with strikes because he's always worried about going for a ride.

With that sort of intensity and wrestling, it will be difficult for him because he's predictable. You never know whether Cain is going to punch you in the face, take you down, pin you against the cage or a combination of all the above. How do you fight against that? Do what Cain did, pile on the pressure and hurt him before he has a chance to get going.

JDS would be better of wading in throwing bombs and just accept that takedowns will come, because to his credit he is impossible to keep down. Cain will be far less willing to exchange if JDS is being really aggressive and hurting him.

Then he needs to hope Cormier drops to LHW because he would be as problematic.
Great post with some valid points.

My take is simple. Prepare for a five round grueling war and don't focus on just one shot even though that's what's got em there. That's the problem when all your (JDS) fights including winning the championship belt end in the 1st round. NOW, JDS knows what it's like to endure pain. I do believe JDS will return and retake the belt to end the trilogy with a varied pressured attack, utilizing BJJ, and really showing Cain how bad he wants it.

I don't think these two underestimate each other. Their championship caliber fighters who've COMPLETELY cleaned out the entire division. Every sport needs that #1 and #2 rivalry. Gotta luv it! Heck if JDS wins they may even go for a fourth...roflz!
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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In a rubber match JDS must win. Duh. Noob.
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He needs to be the aggressor. Cain's game is relentless, varied pressure. If JDS does the same and just tries to counter, he'll be spending most of the fight defending TD's and getting back to his feet, which makes it extremely difficult to get any sort of striking going not to mention allows Cain to surprise him with strikes because he's always worried about going for a ride.

With that sort of intensity and wrestling, it will be difficult for him because he's predictable. You never know whether Cain is going to punch you in the face, take you down, pin you against the cage or a combination of all the above. How do you fight against that? Do what Cain did, pile on the pressure and hurt him before he has a chance to get going.

JDS would be better of wading in throwing bombs and just accept that takedowns will come, because to his credit he is impossible to keep down. Cain will be far less willing to exchange if JDS is being really aggressive and hurting him.
JDS pulling a Cain on Cain.....hmmmm. That would take Cain by surprise for sure.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:03 AM   #25 (permalink)
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It's hilarious how shit changes.

I picked Cain to win, and almost no one on here thought he would. Now I'm picking JDS to win the next one and pretty much everyone has Cain winning haha.

Controversial, but I don't feel that JDS has a lot to do to win the next fight. JDS made a lot of mistakes in that fight that he won't make again, and I think that's really the biggest change in this one. Cain won't be landing much on the feet, which will allow JDS to use his TDD and counter grappling to it's highest potential. His cardio will be better, but I'd still expect him to be out of juice if it makes it to the 4th. The difference will be that he isn't being grinded down, and it's natural cardio loss and not being put against the cage. The damage won't be coming in early and JDS should be able to do little for the first round, but as the fight progresses he gets more and more active and begins countering the wreckless strikes from Cain, ultimatley ending the fight.
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You never know whether Cain is going to punch you in the face, take you down, pin you against the cage or a combination of all the above. How do you fight against that? Do what Cain did, pile on the pressure and hurt him before he has a chance to get going.

Exactly.

I wonder if Frankie Edgar might not be the perfect example of how to fight someone with Cain's style.

Constantly hitting then moving. Going in and out. Being unpredictable without constant pressure.

Cain is like a charging bull. I doubt anyone can match his relentless agressive style.

Maybe the answer is to be more like a matador!
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JDS needs to catch Cain early like the 1st time. Cain's cardio is off the charts and his fighting style is designed to just drain you out till there's nothing left. JDS needs that 1st round knockout or Cain is only gonna keep coming forward.
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