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If he goes through puberty like I did then he's going nowhere

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He's 13.

His accomplishments at his age mean shit.

I read this and was actually shocked there was some prospect that touted that I hadn't heard of, and then I read "13 years old" and now can stop caring.

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Fighting unskilled low level opposition for years and years will cause them to form a lot of bad habits.

When they become adults they'll have accumulated a lot of bad tendencies and patterns they don't realize they have, and need to unlearn then relearn to fight all over again.

Its unlikely they'll live up to the expectations, I tend to think.

They don't have the maturity or intellect to really understand things at that age.
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people change so much when going through puberty, so it's impossible to say where he'll end up.


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I put almost no stock in this article, there are countless 13 year olds who have done the vague things that this kid is doing. I didn't read a single prodigious thing about him, just that he's a "champion" (of what, exactly, isn't clear) of a few martial arts.
I'm not trying to knock the kid, I wish him the best in whatever he does. I'm just saying, don't hold your breath remembering this name because odds are it won't be what the OP makes it out to be.
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Give the kid a break dudes! Aslong as he continues with his interest in MMA he should be a beast when he's 18. Its scary and pretty f*cking exciting to see kids like this training MMA at such a young age. Good luck kid. Hope he continues with the hard work.




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Give the kid a break dudes! Aslong as he continues with his interest in MMA he should be a beast when he's 18. Its scary and pretty f*cking exciting to see kids like this training MMA at such a young age. Good luck kid. Hope he continues with the hard work.
That's exactly the point. He could continue working his tail off until he's 18 and still not amount to much. We don't know what his frame will be like, how athletic he will be, or whether his skills will have plateaued by then. And that's not even taking possible injuries into consideration.

It's simply too early to tell, too many variables.

This applies to child prodigies in just about any sport, btw.
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That's exactly the point. He could continue working his tail off until he's 18 and still not amount to much. We don't know what his frame will be like, how athletic he will be, or whether his skills will have plateaued by then. And that's not even taking possible injuries into consideration.

It's simply too early to tell, too many variables.

This applies to child prodigies in just about any sport, btw.
I see your point but saying his skills might plateau by 18 is a bit harsh. I don't know about too many sports aside from football (soccer), MMA and a few other combat sports. In football, big teams sign up players before they are even teenagers and they usually turn out awesome. I can't speak for any American sports. Of course there are alot of variables and I'm not saying people should start worshipping this dude as the next Anderson or any dumb shit like that.

I just think theres a fine line between negativity and being realistic. Some of the comments about this kid seem to be floating between the two.

Some people say that theres alot of kids at this age who have accomplished the same or similar things. Doesn't sound like it if you listen to his coach. Pretty much world champ at everything it seems.

That being said I do understand your point. From the ages of 13-16 is when we'll really see whats going on with this kid. Its all about development. If he trains with the right coaches, right team and has the right people around him he should be OK. As far as injuries go, if he has the right people around him it should reduce the risk of getting injured. Nobody is going to push a young kid to the point of getting injured and it sure doesn't look like another fighter is going to hurt him at this point. Needs to move out of NY though. The only thing that worried me slightly was he said he wants to do boxing and MMA? Needs to choose one. MMA preferably. Of course he's only 13 so I guess he's got a some time to choose.




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Fighting unskilled low level opposition for years and years will cause them to form a lot of bad habits.

When they become adults they'll have accumulated a lot of bad tendencies and patterns they don't realize they have, and need to unlearn then relearn to fight all over again.

Its unlikely they'll live up to the expectations, I tend to think.

They don't have the maturity or intellect to really understand things at that age.
But as he ages, he will fight better compitition continously. When he's 14, he'll fight the best 14 year old boxers in the world. 15, the same. When he's 17, he'll be brought to weight classes or whatever. As long as he's on top and beating everybody, he can't have a downside for the time being.

But I agree, 13 is really early, but that JJ, boxing and kickboxing experince would be insane if he done wreslting in college.

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First of all, there's a difference between teens playing professionally and a kid beating up on other kids.

And it's not like those teenage soccer wonders are always that great either, look at that Freddy Adu kid that had his little 15 minutes of fame when he got signed at 14.

He's barely noteworthy.

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