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I find that hilarious that you think that makes his striking magically not shit.


I also like how you repeatedly mention people's weight cuts like anyone gives a ****.
Where on earth did I mention Weidman's striking? I said with a full camp he dominates and finishes that fight, not once did I say he'll knock out Maia, Anderson, or anyone else.

And his 32 pound weight cut in 11 days is pretty relevant as to why he looked so bad against Maia, why don't you go cut 32 lbs then go fight a top ten ranked UFC fighter and see how you do.

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Well rounded? His striking sucks, if Demian Maia wasn't a welterweight and had punching power, he probably would've stopped Weidman, he outstruck him handily.

Saying Weidman would beat Bisping savagely implies that he's head and shoulders above the wrestler in the division in Chael Sonnen.

I'm incredulous to what possibly could lead people to believe this other than outwrestling Mark Munoz, who couldn't even outwrestle Chael's son Okami.
Like others have brought up, you can't expect a man to be 100% on 11 days notice. Weidman is a relaxed striker with a big reach and has some solid power so yes he is well rounded.

Believe it or not, Weidman is almost as good of a wrestler as Chael technically speaking and he's bigger, stronger, and more athletic. Not to mention his sub game offensively and defensively is on a different level from chael's.

I'm telling you, Weidman has that freak strength that we see from the likes of Jon Jones and R-Mac. I can see him throwing Bisping around en route to whatever way he wants to win.
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What are you basing his athleticism on?

He's slow and plodding.

Chael is much faster.

Grappling strength =/= athleticism.


It's about as funny as the claims he will submit Silva based on his two purple belt submissions over Jesse Bongfeltd and Tom Lawlor.

Gasp.

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What are you basing his athleticism on?

He's slow and plodding.

Chael is much faster.

Grappling strength =/= athleticism.


It's about as funny as the claims he will submit Silva based on his two purple belt submissions over Jesse Bongfeltd and Tom Lawlor.

Gasp.
I'm not saying he's the most agile MW but he's very fast for his size and his coordination and movements is a testament to his athleticism. I'm also not saying he will submit Silva but I find it very unlikely he'll get submitted either.

I love GSP but Weidman and Bones are the only two non HW's on the planet I see beating Silva.
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I know this thread is turning into the Weidman show, but can someone tell me what they see from Weidman that would trouble Anderson Silva? I've seen all of his fights except the Maia fight, and I've read up on it enough to know that if anything I'd only think less of him by seeing it. He looked to be a pretty good all rounder from his fights. Alright subs, good wrestling, decent striking. But I can't see a single thing he would bring against Spider. Chael has better wrestling, Belfort/Hendo etc. have better striking, Maia has better subs. I don't get where people can see him beating AS.

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I know this thread is turning into the Weidman show, but can someone tell me what they see from Weidman that would trouble Anderson Silva? I've seen all of his fights except the Maia fight, and I've read up on it enough to know that if anything I'd only think less of him by seeing it. He looked to be a pretty good all rounder from his fights. Alright subs, good wrestling, decent striking. But I can't see a single thing he would bring against Spider. Chael has better wrestling, Belfort/Hendo etc. have better striking, Maia has better subs. I don't get where people can see him beating AS.
You answered your own question...one guy may excel in one area over him. But he puts it all together. Maia has the jitz to sub Anderson but he lacked the wrestling Chael has the wrestling but lacks the striking to survive for any length of time if he stays standing.

Weidman isn't as good in all areas but he has enough in each area that he can out it together better. I'm a supporter of Weidman vs Anderson I haven't ever said he would destroy Anderson or even beat him. I have only said he's the match up I want to see the most at mw.

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I know this thread is turning into the Weidman show, but can someone tell me what they see from Weidman that would trouble Anderson Silva? I've seen all of his fights except the Maia fight, and I've read up on it enough to know that if anything I'd only think less of him by seeing it. He looked to be a pretty good all rounder from his fights. Alright subs, good wrestling, decent striking. But I can't see a single thing he would bring against Spider. Chael has better wrestling, Belfort/Hendo etc. have better striking, Maia has better subs. I don't get where people can see him beating AS.
I don't think Weidman could beat Silva right now, or even in a year, but once Chris reaches his full potential and sharpens up his game I can see him beating Anderson. He has a scary blend of athleticism, wrestling and an extremely dangerous ground game, which are three major things you need to be able to utilize against Anderson. Working with Ray Longo and Costa Philippou, his striking is only going to get better. The area I see Weidman needing to work on the most is his explosiveness. The thing that worked for Chael so well against Anderson was his explosive double. Weidman doesn't have that. One small (very small) dent in Anderson's game is that he lacks a natural base what makes defending takedowns easier. If Weidman can develop an explosive double I can see him giving Anderson a very, very tough fight.
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I don't think Weidman could beat Silva right now, or even in a year, but once Chris reaches his full potential and sharpens up his game I can see him beating Anderson. He has a scary blend of athleticism, wrestling and an extremely dangerous ground game, which are three major things you need to be able to utilize against Anderson. Working with Ray Longo and Costa Philippou, his striking is only going to get better. The area I see Weidman needing to work on the most is his explosiveness. The thing that worked for Chael so well against Anderson was his explosive double. Weidman doesn't have that. One small (very small) dent in Anderson's game is that he lacks a natural base what makes defending takedowns easier. If Weidman can develop an explosive double I can see him giving Anderson a very, very tough fight.
I dare say by the time Weidman is good enough to beat Anderson (if ever) that anderson will be pretty much retired.



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