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Old 01-08-2013, 09:43 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Weidman is terribly overrated IMO. His ranking on this site seems to be based off the victory against Munoz. Munoz himself was overrated and their rankings at the time of the fight did not match up to who they had beaten.

Just looking through their UFC wins at time of fight

Weidman
Sakara
Bongfeldt
Lawlor
Maia


Munoz:
Jensen
Catone
Grove
Simpson
Dolloway
Leben
Maia

I'm seeing a lot of undercard guys, guys not in the UFC anymore and their biggest wins were a sloppy kickboxing match against Maia who is now at 170.

Not one guy on either of their resumes is close to Michael Bisping's talent.
Posts like these are the problem, everyone brings up the fact Weidman's victories aren't full of top names but everyone fails to mention that outside of Maia, a fight he cut 32 lbs in 11 days for Weidman never struggled with any of those guys. It's like people don't watch Weidman fight and just look at his record.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:02 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Bisping has stopped a few cans along the way too.

All I'm saying is that in my mind Weidman should show something against a top guy again before we get a barrage of "Weidman would handle Bisping easily" posts. Outside of the Henderson fight he has never been handled easily. And he has Sonnen and Rashad on his resume.
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Jacare would eat Bisping alive.
Jacare doesn't get Bisping to the floor. Sorry.
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Jacare doesn't get Bisping to the floor. Sorry.
Bisping is very hard to get down. Even harder to keep him on the ground for an extended period of time. Now I'll wait for a poster to bring up the Mayhem fight.
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Posts like these are the problem, everyone brings up the fact Weidman's victories aren't full of top names but everyone fails to mention that outside of Maia, a fight he cut 32 lbs in 11 days for Weidman never struggled with any of those guys. It's like people don't watch Weidman fight and just look at his record.
Why the **** would you struggle against Tom Lawlor and Jesse Bongfeltd.
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Why the **** would you struggle against Tom Lawlor and Jesse Bongfeltd.
some do, some don't.

styles make fights.

don't act like they fight as poorly as a drunken bum, they are trained fighters.
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No contender would really struggle against those guys though. What Rofl's trying to say is that for someone who people rank #1 in the division to have 'not struggled agaisnt Lawlor and Bongfeldt' is pretty routine.

Heres my breakdown of their records together.

Alessio Sakara
Easy opponent. Should have been finished.

Yoshihiro Akiyama
Hate this fight cause I was showing mates thhis event . Decent name but coming off a loss.

Bisping 1
Weidman 0


Jesse Bongfeldt
Routine win and good stoppage.

Jorge Rivera
Massive win for the rivalry, but in fight events lower this.

Bisping 2
Weidman 1
(Draw)


Tom Lawlor
Decent fighter and slight step up, but routine again for a contender.

Jason Miller
Like Sakara, post fight losses aren't relevent. Lots of hype and big TUF win.

Bisping 3
Weidman 1


Demian Maia
Big step up, but weak performance.

Chael Sonnen
Very close fight and good performance, but a loss none the less.

Bisping 3
Weidman 2


Mark Munoz
Overrated opponent but very good win.

Brian Stann
Overrated opponent but very good win.

Bisping 4
Weidman 3


In performances since Weidman's UFC arrival, I have Bisping edging ahead. This is removing his 9-3 UFC record beforehand and TUF win.
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Jacare doesn't get Bisping to the floor. Sorry.
He wouldn't need to, Jacare's stand up has got a lot better in the last couple of years and the loss to Rockhold was a garbage decision, when Jacare gets over to the UFC he's gonna run through a lot of people.

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Why the **** would you struggle against Tom Lawlor and Jesse Bongfeltd.
He didn't, that's the whole point I've been trying to make....
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No contender would really struggle against those guys though. What Rofl's trying to say is that for someone who people rank #1 in the division to have 'not struggled agaisnt Lawlor and Bongfeldt' is pretty routine.
alright, I misunderstood.

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