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**ClydebankBlitz** · 01-06-2013, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Harness

Looks like a great card! So what if Rousey is headlining, come live in the UK, then you can complain about a poor main event/card.

Or Ireland, I had only heard of UFC from a PS1 game and a Friends episode last time UFC was here lmao.

But at the same time, free PPVs > good live events.

gazh · 01-06-2013, 05:58 AM

The girls shouldn't be headlining. I say that not because they arn't talented, but because they are being pushed ahead of Henderson and Machida - two fighters who have built their names using their talents over many years.

The girls should have been the opening main card fight, from there they would have their chance to build they names and get people to be genuinely interested to buy their PPVs based on their actual talents not the fact they are women.

**ClydebankBlitz** · 01-06-2013, 06:11 AM

Yeah I think the whole female fighters thing has been handled badly, and it's something that would have needed perfection to have succeded.

I would have signed a few more female fighters. Really to non elite fans, like me, there are only like 3 or 4 female fighters, Cyborg, Tate, Rousey and Carano. There were things that made signing all of them an issue, so really it would have been a group of unknowns that had to be signed. Signing 4 BW fighters, with Rousey being one of them, and having a tournament would have been the best way to arrange things to me. They could have been on the main card of two different events for the first round, which would have shown woman's MMA without forcing it to be something it isn't, a main event, by making it a title fight. Then, with Rousey most likley winning with ease, the UFC fans would have got to see her in the biggest stage and would get behind her (which I wouldnt mind doing myself).

Even at that, it wouldn't have been big enough to main event for at least 1 year. It could have been like the UFC did when they introduced the smaller weight classes, making it the co-main event to actual title fights.

**Sugar-Free_LizaG** · 01-06-2013, 06:15 AM

Well Rousey/Carmouche are getting their own Primetime show, and there is still over a month left, things can still pick up. In a month more name WMMA fighters could get signed as well.

Dunno why there's a fuss over ticket sales just yet.

**TheLyotoLegion** · 01-06-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gazh

The girls shouldn't be headlining. I say that not because they arn't talented, but because they are being pushed ahead of Henderson and Machida - two fighters who have built their names using their talents over many years.

The girls should have been the opening main card fight, from there they would have their chance to build they names and get people to be genuinely interested to buy their PPVs based on their actual talents not the fact they are women.

That's ridiculous, Ronda has a belt. Machida and Henderson don't. The belt takes precendence over a fight that might not even determine a top contender with the way Dana flip flops these days.

anderton46 · 01-06-2013, 11:06 AM

I also think the fact most people assume it's an easy win for Rousey means less sales. If I wanted to go an event I would avoid a headline like this as it could be over within 2 minutes and it doesn't have much name value in that sense.

**Cowgirl** · 01-06-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by anderton46

I also think the fact most people assume it's an easy win for Rousey means less sales. If I wanted to go an event I would avoid a headline like this as it could be over within 2 minutes and it doesn't have much name value in that sense.

The thing is though is that Carmouche is tough, Ronda won't be able to walk through her, it's just the way the media is portraying things. To refer back to an earlier post about blowouts, very very few people expected anything other than complete and utter domination of Bonnar by Silva, yet they all still bought. I guess in that regard, their names saved them though.

Terror Kovenant · 01-06-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowgirl

The thing is though is that Carmouche is tough, Ronda won't be able to walk through her, it's just the way the media is portraying things. To refer back to an earlier post about blowouts, very very few people expected anything other than complete and utter domination of Bonnar by Silva, yet they all still bought. I guess in that regard, their names saved them though.

theres a difference,

Silva can finish a fight anyway he wants. Be it a late triangle choke, a paralyzing knee to the sternum, or a front kick to the mouth.

Whens the last time Rousey did anything other than an armbar?

Oh wait, she hasnt.

gazh · 01-06-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion

That's ridiculous, Ronda has a belt. Machida and Henderson don't. The belt takes precendence over a fight that might not even determine a top contender with the way Dana flip flops these days.

**** that.

The fact a belt takes precendence over the actual combatants is from the same school of ridiculous thought that sees two relative unknowns competeing in 157's main card.

I'm all for women's MMA, part of me loves that we're getting the girls to main event - but it's unearned and tainted, i can't support it this way.

**TheLyotoLegion** · 01-06-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gazh

**** that.

The fact a belt takes precendence over the actual combatants is from the same school of ridiculous thought that sees two relative unknowns competeing in 157's main card.

I'm all for women's MMA, part of me loves that we're getting the girls to main event - but it's unearned and tainted, i can't support it this way.

How is it unearned? It's no different than when Cruz/Faber headlined 132.

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