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But how does Nick, a world class grappler and submission fighter, have a big weakness against wrestlers if, like you said, he hasn't really fought any wrestlers?

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But how does Nick, a world class grappler and submission fighter, have a big weakness against wrestlers if, like you said, he hasn't really fought any wrestlers?
Because he hasn't fought any of them recently, he has fought wrestlers before but he lost to them, it's the same thing with Nate, they try and fight off their back but fighting off your back won't win you fights in MMA unless you can finish.

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Nick could learn a lot from Nate. Nate keeps his mouth shut and Dana feeds him guys he can beat.
I don't see the logic here, man. Lots of low profile fighters getting all sorts of opponents. Why you think that?

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Because he hasn't fought any of them recently, he has fought wrestlers before but he lost to them, it's the same thing with Nate, they try and fight off their back but fighting off your back won't win you fights in MMA unless you can finish.
Nate's BJJ isn't really the same as Nick's. And that aside, what makes you think that Nate can't finish? Since improving his boxing, thus becoming a completley different fighter, pre-Bendo he had been pretty much taken down twice. One of which he finished with a triangle or an armbar, both were involved, and the other he finished with a nasty guillotine. Ben Henderson is a completley different fighter, and I think it was Cerrone that said he's practically impossible to sub. GSP might well fight the same, but theres a reason these guys are the champions. If Condit had went for the takedown on Nick and had that strategy throughout, I think Nick would have finished him. Same goes for anyone that isn't on the same super submission def level that Ben Henderson for example is. If you make ANY mistakes, Nick will capitalize. He had trouble with them in the past, but that's a long long time ago. Since then, he was a great fighter in Pride, the best Strikeforce fighter of all time. The Nick that was having trouble with wrestlers wouldn't have had the same achievements as Nick now does if he hadn't improved dramatically.

I guess time will tell. I hope if Nick loses he sticks around the division because there are a lot like you whom he has a lot to prove to. He will always be hated, and he really does warrent a lot of it, but I feel the downplay of his skills is something he could easily justify and that would give the likes of you only his attitude to comment on and not question marks over his abilities you know what I mean?

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This is ridiculous, lol, the reason people are more fond of Nate than they are Nick is because Nate is more professional, although that isn't really saying much, he may hate the PR but he still does it, Nick ran out the back door to avoid showing up to one. I'm not a fan of either guy but I do enjoy watching them fight.
That's exactly what I said.

If Nick could shut up like Nate does, he'd get opponents he could style on. Like Nate does.
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Nick doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who wants easy opponents though. He didn't join the UFC because he hated the way it was run, not because he wanted the easy Strikeforce compititon. If he wanted an easy ride he wouldnt be looking at GSP.

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Nick doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who wants easy opponents though. He didn't join the UFC because he hated the way it was run, not because he wanted the easy Strikeforce compititon. If he wanted an easy ride he wouldnt be looking at GSP.
Fair enough. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the disrespect he gets on forums like this.

If he was being fed fighters he could beat (like Lombard getting Boetsch and Palhares) then people would be talking about how he's 'such a beast ZOMG!!1!!' and talking about how GSP was ducking him and blah blah blah

He loses one fight to Condit (which was super close) and they all talk about how he's garbage and has no chance etc..

The UFC knows how to build guys up, and a lot of you guys fall for it every time (Gus, Lombard, Phil Davis) when realistically these guys have no shot at the title.

Nick got BJ, Condit and now GSP. Three of the best guys in the UFC and he's .500 so far with the loss being controversial and all he gets is hate.

If he'd been given guys he could beat easily the way the guys the UFC wants to hype up do, the forums would be full of people declaring him the greatest WW of all time.
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^^^^^^ If somebody don't reckon Nick Diaz qualities as a fighter, you can call that hate. That is not the reason Nick gets criticism IMO.


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Yeah I get you Rear, but Nick is as popular BECAUSE of the hate. You've got two sides of Diaz viewers. You've got guys like me, who hold him ridiculously high in their favs lists and wouldnt miss a fight, and you've got guys who watch everything he does to hate him further or see him get knocked out.

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Yeah I get you Rear, but Nick is as popular BECAUSE of the hate. You've got two sides of Diaz viewers. You've got guys like me, who hold him ridiculously high in their favs lists and wouldnt miss a fight, and you've got guys who watch everything he does to hate him further or see him get knocked out.
Also! Theres dudes like me who enjoy watching him fight but neither hate or love him. He's a good fighter with strong beliefs about PR and all that crap. If he wins he wins and if he loses well, he loses. Doesn't bother me which. That is until he fights GSP. I'd like to see GSP win but I do like Diaz. I'm just not obsessed or anything.

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