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  • Vitor Belfort

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    Votes: 20 32.3%
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***OFFICIAL*** Vitor Belfort vs. Michael Bisping thread

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#1 ·
Middleweight bout: 185 pounds
Main event - Five round fight

 
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#7 ·
Either a KO by Vitor within the first two rounds or a 48-47 decision for Bisping. I'm torn on who I want to win though. Bisping has grown on me recently but I still kinda wanna see him get knocked out... but I do wanna see him fight Anderson... probably because he'd get knocked out. :confused05:
 
#14 ·
People honestly believe that Vitor's only chance is a KO victory? Wand Silva decisioned Bisping, and Vitor Belfort can't do it? Listen... I like Mike, but you people have to promise me that you'll put all of this silly nonsense about his being a legitimate contender back in the closet alongside 'motivated BJ Penn' and 'hungry Rampage Jackson' after another top middleweight again exposes him as the merely good, and not great, fighter that he is.
 
#19 ·
Please don't bring race into it gazh. What on earth do you mean by 'the added bonus of being black' anyways?

Guys like Etim, Pearson, Winner, Sass get a lot of love. There's no anti Brit agenda going on, not in mass anyways. Bisping just acts like a dick sometimes. Maybe not so much lately but people don't forget. I used to be a big Daley fan and I cannot stand the guy now, and shock horror, it has nothing to do with his race.

USA chants suck, so do Brazilian crowds that refuse to cheer for anyone that isn't Brazilian. And the way JDS was booed after the Velasquez fight? Wow. Shit crowds are shit crowds and they happen everywhere.
 
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#20 ·
Bisping being British helps in the same way that a Bond villain being say Russian helps. He's just got a certain English demeanor that would rub people the wrong way in the first place, let alone him being a dick aswell, so I understand what gazh is saying. At the same time, the British, or specifically English, aren't hated by Americans point blank. As people have mentioned, the likes of Ross Pearson and Paul Sass have very little bad things said about them, or at the ver least their personalities. Paul Daley was hated for being a complete dick and throwing a dig at Kos after their fight, and even though I'm a fan of Daley, him being black has nothing to do with it. Anderson Silva, the most loved UFC fighter of all time, is also black...
 
#21 ·
I guess i am implying that America is more inherently racist than Britain, that's not a slight against Americans as such, it's just more prevelant in their culture.

So i guess what i'm saying is that by and large being British and Black is a double whammy for the "USA, USA, USA" crowds.

Understand?
 
#23 ·
All those Brazilian fans must be racist as well... All that chanting... I think you just make terrible assumptions or don't have enough real world experience to understand how prevelant racism is throughout the world and not just America.

The race talk ends here. No more oh he is black that's why! Forum disruption infractions will be handed out for bringing race talk into it.
 
#26 ·
just based on ur gut instincts who do u guys think will win this fight ?!

I just have a hard time seeing vitor losing in Brazil .. if he has anything left he should be able to beat Bisping .. Bisping just sucks lol I thought Stann would beat him but was wrong about that lol so who knows
 
#29 ·
Stann and Vitor are different animals. I will admit I also thought Stann could possibly beat Bisping but I was not very confident about it since Mike had the better speed, cardio, technique and even better grappling. But against Vitor IMO He doesn't have any of those advantages outside of cardio/pace. Vitor is faster, a better striker and his ground game is more developed even if he doesn't use it very often.
I just think Vitor is a bad match for Mike with is hand speed and power. I expect Vitor to blitz Mike at some point.
 
#33 ·
Bisping doesnt have natural skills. He's not the fastest and he's not the strongest. But it's his strategy going in which makes the difference. If he can work around allowing Vitor to land a big shot, he will win the fight. If he can make it a grappling exchange or even take it to the ground in each round, I think Bisping will convincingly win. His danger is on the feet because he is quite succeptible to getting caught and Vitor will definently put him away if he gets the same moments Stann got.
 
#35 ·
What I'm saying is why is it only the big shot. Who is to say Vitor doesn't pick Bisping apart or just beat him around the octagon all night. Bisping hasn't proven he can out strike someone like Vitor. Now that doesn't mean he can't do it, but he hasn't done anything to make me think Vitor couldn't do the same to him.
 
#34 ·
I don't believe Vitor is the better Kick Boxer, he has more power and is known for his fast hands but he doesn't have great movement and i can't remember him utilising kicks and knees too often.

If Vitor lands something big early he can end this fight fast, i just think Bisping has has been here before against similar fighters (not exactly the same, granted) and has had an appropriate gameplan.

People have been complimentary of Bisping's wrestling over recent years but the fact is he loses to wrestlers (Sonnen, Henderson, Rashad.. Hammill took him to the wire) and tends to do well against guys who he can get down.

I think he will get Vitor down multiple times during this fight and if he is going to win this fight he will have to.
 
#38 ·
I don't see Bisping outgrappling Vitor in anyway. Vitor, who likes to KO ppl, is the one who is Carlson Gracie pupil. Who not very long ago finished a monster like Anthony Johnson and pulled Jones to his guard when needed, giving him nightmares. Vitor is stronger and has clear advantage in speed and power while standing. Bisping is more like a methodic striker, as Franklin is in his own style, and Vitor just waited for the opportunity to machine gun him.
If Bisping wins, it will be an upset, as on paper, I don't see it happening in any area.



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#39 ·
I'm never convinced by someones skills just because the train under an established master. Vitor has good enough BJJ, but I think Bisping showed outstanding grappling skills by being able to match Chael Sonnen. Sonnen throws every single person he fights around with his wrestling, and Bisping barley even went on his back in that fight and at times looked to be even better, so I think he needs to be regonized for that. Belfort wasn't nearly active enough from the guard against Jones, and I personally think after that fight that Jones has bad submission defence (only escaping because of his size) so I don't think Belfort really showcases a lot to us there. Regardless Belfort can pull off a sub against anyone and he showed good transitions to get Rumble's back and finish that fight. I think the main grappling will take place on the cage and if it comes to there, I think Bisping will gjust be too heavy on Belfort and have his hands in the right places to keep it there and make it boring. Like a more skillful showing than Mir/Cro Cop. But the problem is, the next round stands with both men in the centre of the cage once again.
 
#40 · (Edited)
Props to Bisping to counter wrestling Sonnen, but Sonnen has almost zero submission plans. Although pupil means only student, when said in Portuguese normally means a well regarded student and that is an understatement about Vitor and his Master. Vitor is not a wrestler, he is a BJJ black belt and I believe it's not quite fair to judge nobody defense/activity while having Jon Jones in his guard.
 
#48 ·
To survive for almost four full rounds playing around in Jones' guard is an achievement in itself. How long have other fighters lasted once Jon scored a take down. Jon Jones has the most dangerous and ruthless top game in the entire sport right now. For Vitor to last so long on the ground with Jones on top and neutralise most of his attacks whilst almost securing an arm bar early on his extremely impressive.

Vitors grappling game I feel is being vastly under rated here, like you said, I think he's a much better over all grappler than Bisping and Mike has never really had a good offensive wrestling game. His defensive wrestling is definitely solid, but his offensive game and take downs leave a lot to be desired. Any one remember the take down he tried to get on Dan Henderson, and Hendo just looked at him and laughed.

Vitor is the much more dangerous striker and over all the more technical one, and is the over all superior grappler. Bisping has the edge in cardio and pace, but I don't think that's going to be enough to secure a win.

Belfort should KO Bisping within two.
 
#41 ·
Hard fight to call but I'm thinking Bisping wins this one. It's hard to picture how this one is going to turn out but I think Bisping is going to wear out Belfort later on in the fight and finish him or win a decision. Either way the winner of this fight I believe will go on to fight Anderson. I'm kinda rooting for Bisping just because I want to see him match up against Anderson I think it'll make for an entertaining fight and would expect Anderson to destroy him adding more to his legacy.
 
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