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Vitor Belfort 42 67.74%
Michael Bisping 20 32.26%
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:40 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Bisping won't and I'd wager he can't run away, Dana's promising him a title shot and if he turns this into a Maynard/Guida type of fight even if it is for a few rounds then Dana may go back on his word, and then there's the factor of the ref warning him, if the fans begin to boo the ref will act on it, warn him, threaten to take a point or take the point and then he'll be facing that.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:42 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Good point on mentioning Dana going back on his word. Even if Bisping did happen to win, Dana has been cracking the whip lately. It's a tough situation for Bisping. Fighting defensively and excessive clinching wouldn't hurt though. Bisping has an underrated clinch game and he should be looking to tire Belfort every chance he gets. If Belfort comes in poorly conditioned, it would benefit Bisping a lot, we'll see though. I'm leaning toward Belfort, but I'm hoping to see a Bisping win. I think Bisping can win if he fights the perfect fight and Belfort doesn't, but it's going to be ridiculously hard because like a lot of us have said, Bisping gets caught a lot, and Belfort hits hard and has the speed in those hands to back it up.
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I really don't understand what the UFC is trying to do here. They are not managing the 185 division well at all.

So they say if Bisping wins he gets a shot. But for Vitor it isn't a #1 contenders match. So they give Bisping a strong boxer with KO power....in Brazil. Are they not setting him up for failure? Even though we all know they want Bisping to get a title fight? Why would they give him Vitor in Brazil?

Say Vitor wins by TKO in the 2nd. Would they not give another shot to Vitor? Who else would get it? Doesn't seem like they are making mathups well at 185.

I can see Rockhold getting a shot if Vitor beats Bisping. Which is fine and all, but not that exciting. I would like to see Rockhold in the UFC once before hand, especially when he just pulled out from the last SF event.

Weidman is out, and they need to get him a fight first. Can't just give him a title shot after injury when the public has forgotten his performance vs. Munoz. That would be terrible promoting.

Rashad should have quit being a girl and came down to 185.
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I don't get it either but Anderson said that the only fight he was interested in at 185 was Bisping and Rockhold but his camp don't think Bisping will win.

Lombard might get one if he trashes my boy Yushin.
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I don't get it either but Anderson said that the only fight he was interested in at 185 was Bisping and Rockhold but his camp don't think Bisping will win.

Lombard might get one if he trashes my boy Yushin.
Seems like the timing is way off in everything they are doing. Looks like Anderson won't defend until the middle of 2013. Maybe May or June.

I know they were planning on Boetsch/Weidman but that fell through. I wish they would make a true #1 contender fight. A Bisping/Lombard or Bisping/Weidman would have been good winner gets a shot type fights. Rockhold vs. Bisping.

I guess injury ruins everything. Will Jacare fight Anderson? Would love to see Weidman/Jacare when Weidman comes back.
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Highly doubt it, he trains at X-Gym which is Anderson's gym in Brazil, Feijao's down there too and everyone would probably lean towards Anderson, but I doubt Jacare would even do it to begin with.

Weidman's supposed to be back early summer, I guess they could fight but it wouldn't be ideal in terms or promoting, Rockhold or Bisping has to be his next fight unless he fights at 205 again but I think he said he was done fighting at 205 after Bonnar. Maybe the UFC believes in Bisping more than we do, who knows but I don't see anyway Bisping can win this, his cardio is much better but his chin gets touched in just about every fight it seems.

If Bisping loses, It'll probably be Silva/Rockhold, UFC vs. SF/Title unification and all that good stuff but Rockhold's no different than Bisping or Belcher, he's a striker and thus Anderson will probably eat him alive. I know I'm the number one Weidman guy on this board and keep hugging his nuts but that fight is so much more better than Rockhold or Bisping vs. Silva.
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I think Bisping can win, but it isn't a favorable matchup. hen throw in the fact that it is in Brazil and it makes it that much worse.

Rockhold is a solid fighter, but will get smashed. And that fight won't sell much.

I wouldn't totally mind if Vitor got another shot. He stepped up for the Bones fight and made it more interesting than anyone really thought he would. Wouldn't be ideal, but if he goes out and KOs Bisping quick, I would prolly rather see Belfort 2 over Rockhold straight from SF.
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People are vastly underrating Bisping (as always) and overrating Vitor. This fight is a pick 'em... if it wasn't in Brazil, Bisping would be a favorite. He's a better wrestler and striker, he has much better cardio, and Vitor probably won't threaten him off his back.

Vitor is faster and could definitely swarm and finish him, but don't be surprised if he gets tooled for 25 minutes.
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People are vastly underrating Bisping (as always) and overrating Vitor. This fight is a pick 'em... if it wasn't in Brazil, Bisping would be a favorite. He's a better wrestler and striker, he has much better cardio, and Vitor probably won't threaten him off his back.

Vitor is faster and could definitely swarm and finish him, but don't be surprised if he gets tooled for 25 minutes.
No. Bisping would not and SHOULD not be a favourite no matter where this fight takes place. Vitor has defeated top tier talents. Michael Bisping has not. Moreover, Mike is certainly not a better striker, and I question whether his take downs are even better than Vitor's. We also have no reason to believe that Mike can't be subbed. His wrestling and top control are rudimentary at best.

As for cardio, I've no idea why people keep bringing up Vitor's as though it's poor. He went four rounds with Jon Jones without gassing. We have more evidence of Mike's cardio being poor given he gassed against Mayhem.

Bisping tools cans and mid-tier talents, which is all well and good, but Vitor is neither. 'Number one contender' Michael Bisping will go the way of 'in shape' BJ Penn and 'motivated' Rampage Jackson soon enough.
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We also have no reason to believe that Mike can't be subbed. His wrestling and top control are rudimentary at best.
Mike has never been subbed, I guess that's one reason. And his wrestling didn't look all that bad against Sonnen.
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