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Old 01-13-2013, 07:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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...and Jones is going to triangle him from there
Something I've been thinking about aswell. Jones has the perfect build for that style of fighting, but is he capable of doing it? He showed a BJJ weakness, by his own admission, in the Vitor fight but as we all know, offence and defence in submissions are two very different things. Even if Jones does have weak submission offence, it's not exactly like Chael is has amazing submission defence, or even great sub def...or even any at all. If the odds are right I'll probably throw something down on Chael for a decision and Jones for a submission.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It's going to take a few of Bones tools to defeat Sonnen. I can totally see Bones bringing his AAA game. He knows losing to Chael would be a massive embarrassment.
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Yeah to me, Chael is a guy you can never take lightly because he's a master at implimenting his game plan. Jones will have to be fully aware and make sure he's just as good at using his and he should be fine. Jones has a lot more naturally going for him so if he can match Chael is trying to get the fight working to his strategy, he should be able to walk away with it.

Jones can make mistakes though. He kept going to the ground with Vitor after Vitor pulled guard, and was just asking to get submitted. He was smashing him on the feet and not even close to taking one back so there was really no need for him to go down. If Jones was fighting someone like Werdum instead, he'd have lost quite easily imo.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I still think everyones underrating Sonnen. If anyone can put Jones on his back, it's Chael.
Agree. Purely wrestling wise Sonnen credentials and drive are still superior on paper. Jones wrestling shines in MMA when well mixed with his other skills and he mix things up brilliantly. That said, I want to see his response to Sonnen's predictable TD. Ppl say he will keep Sonnen at the distance. We've seen Sonnen simply running after legs. When he commits to take you down he means business and I am curious about two things: Can Sonnen TD Jones? And: Can Sonnen keep Jones down? All other thinkable alternatives end up in a brutal and painful night for Sonnen.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Agree. Purely wrestling wise Sonnen credentials and drive are still superior on paper. Jones wrestling shines in MMA when well mixed with his other skills and he mix things up brilliantly. That said, I want to see his response to Sonnen's predictable TD. Ppl say he will keep Sonnen at the distance. We've seen Sonnen simply running after legs. When he commits to take you down he means business and I am curious about two things: Can Sonnen TD Jones? And: Can Sonnen keep Jones down? All other thinkable alternatives end up in a brutal and painful night for Sonnen.
Yeah that's my two questions aswell. It doesn't matter if you know what Chael is going to do. EVERYONE knows Chael is shooting straight away, To this point, almost everyone he's faced haven't been able to avoid it though. Jones is a lot bigger than Chael's previous opponents and he's got the kind of build that will allow him to have his legs pulled high up whilst maintaining his balance. That being said, it's still Chael. I personally think he's the best pure wrestler in the UFC, even ahead of GSP. The submission topic is an interesting one to see how Jones does off his back. I imagine he'll smash Chael's face up with elbows from the bottom, but Chael won't care and will stay there landing massive shots from the guard if he gets the oppertunity. I think he can keep Jones on the floor if he manages to take him down and I feel being the smaller man will actually help him with his takedown offence.

I'm a lot more interested in this fight than apparently anyone else and think Chael has a better chance of winning than everyone Jones has fought so far (sorry Machida). It might not turn out that way, but I still think on paper Chael has a decent shot at this.
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Jones is gonna beat Sonnen, but what a ridiculous statement by Silva. Sonnen is not a dumb fighter, he is not going to sit behind Jones's jab for 5 rounds straight. I doubt Sonnen is going to take down Jones, but if anyone is going to, it is Chael Sonnen. Jones is tall, and has a pretty high centre of gravity which makes him more susceptible to a takedown. He is going to keep his hands low, but that opens him up for strikes to the chin. Always interesting to see how Jones break down his opponent's game.
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Wand is just trying to stay relevant, the poor guy.

Even I know that the odds of Sonnen defeating Jones are slim. But it's not going to be so easy. I don't even believe that Jones will finish Sonnen. I can totally see a 5 round standup affair with Jones picking Sonnen apart from a distance, ala Rashad Evans, but even then, Chael isn't going to wilt like Rashad did. He'll keep pushing that pace. It's going to be a much more interesting fight than some expect.

People like to pretend that the first Silva fight never happened, and that Sonnen's losing to Anderson the second time around (aka, the greatest fighter to have lived) somehow means he isn't game. It's nonsense really.
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Jones is going to embarass him
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Chael is going to put Jones on his back and break his will.
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Personally I don't think Sonnen has a chance, at least on paper it looks that way to me. Jones has shown the ability to perform under pressure, and his technique is sharp. The only way I see Chael winning this is if Jones has a brain fart, and I don't see that happening.

On the feet Jones all the way, on the ground Jones all the way. He has out-wrestled pretty much everyone I don't see Sonnen being any different. Sonnen was a big MW, but as a LHW he's average sized, while JBJ is a big LHW and will have weight and length on Sonnen. On the feet there's no question.

If Sonnen does manage to get him on his back or in a scramble, I see JBJ either getting right back up, or going for submissions. He submitted Lyoto, Belfort and Rampage - all within 2 years I think. Sonnen submitted Brian Stann, and got submitted few times himself so you have to give the grappling edge to JBJ. So for him it's pick your poison.
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