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Old 01-14-2013, 10:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I haven't read through this thread at all. But if you aren't a CC fan you have evil in your heart.
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Cro Cop is the only fighter aside from Rampage, Barao and Mayhem that gets called their nickname more than their real name.
How about Hendo, Jacare and Crusher?
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:01 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I highly doubt that, the rules were very different in PRICE vs UFC plus ring vs. octagon.

If PRIDE was around and UFC folded, I would be willing to bet guys used to the octagon would have very dismal showings when they transitioned over to the ring (+ head stomps and soccer kicks).

Not saying there wasn't PED abuse in Japan, there clearly was (but I highly doubt with these 2 legends).
I've always thought about that. What if...

The only few examples I can think of were Chuck vs Overeem vs Rampage. Jens Pulver then Vitor...but the transition from Pride fighters to the UFC was less than stellar except for Anderson Silva. At least Shogun and Big Nog did win their titles.

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It's got nothing to do with the rules, which is a valid point.

Both those guys looked pounds lighter in Pride. Their overall body movement was far more dynamic. Both these guys came to the UFC, and have since looked like they are fighting in slow motion compared to their Pride days. Is that not how you see it? Maybe I need to go back and watch some old videos. My memory might be somewhat hazy.
Yah they seemed a step slower...actually a lot slower. I think the ring is a lot smaller so you're forced to engage. Then you had the yellow cards which further induced more striking matches. Foot stomps and kicks was the exclamation point. A lot of fighters use that tactic to stall. Knees and kicks to the head should be allowed come to think of it.
Otherwise those sneaky grapplers will always lay on their backs to exploit that; Thales Leites, Werdum, etc.
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Cro Cop is the only fighter aside from Rampage, Barao and Mayhem that gets called their nickname more than their real name.
BJ? Shogun?

Shogun for one looked a LOT slower. Especially in his debut and the Coleman fight. Sped up a bit for the Machida fights though.
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I didn't realize he had so many kickboxing fights in 2012. I got some videos to watch!
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BJ? Shogun?

Shogun for one looked a LOT slower. Especially in his debut and the Coleman fight. Sped up a bit for the Machida fights though.
Still think it goes Jacare then Rampage. After that we got Cro Cop,Shogun, BJ and GSP.
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Rampage gets called Quinton a lot more than BJ gets called Jay Dee.

The latest of Cro Cops kickboxing matches aren't amazing. Only seen the latest two. He gets sucker punched in the fight against Blake as well when trying to apologise.
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Rampage gets called Quinton a lot more than BJ gets called Jay Dee.

The latest of Cro Cops kickboxing matches aren't amazing. Only seen the latest two. He gets sucker punched in the fight against Blake as well when trying to apologise.
I guess you are right. Have you ever heard KJ Noons called Karl James? How about Frank Mir called Francisco?
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