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Old 01-14-2013, 03:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
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heh, I don't like bendo or hate him, I nothing him and his religion doesn't bother me really either, bendo also has 0 finishes in the UFC too which I can't stand he should have finished bocek or sick jim miller at least.
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I don't either, but he's damn sure earned the right to say whatever the hell he wants on that mic when he wins

And he makes up for it (in my book) by being a very interesting fighter.

If you entertain me for 25 minutes I think I'll live through you saying "'Sup Jesus" for 5/10 seconds.

It's weird, people always find reasons to hate on Bendo - either it's his religion or that decision that went his way (Which was something completely out of his control)

And now that he dominated his last challenger, all of a sudden he's "not very marketable" how does that make any sense?

IMO the religion part is not that big of a deal, i was jus agreeing with the other poster. dont be so sensitive about it dude.

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the religion thing does my head in but bendo is a great champ, how can you say his fights are boring? like seriously? lol. bendo always tries to finish, takes more risks than most would when you look at GSP/edgar etc
i didnt say his fights were boring i just said his fighting style of cage humping is ugly to see, especially for the casuals.

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Imo, It is way too early to suggest that Ben Hendo "isn't marketable". Keep in mind, he's only been in the UFC for 1 and a half years, and only has two title defences. The key factor that has been the reason why he hasn't blown up yet, is the fact that has no finishes in the UFC.

Honestly, I think attitude has very little to do with how marketable you are as a fighter. Take Cain Velasquez for example. I see Bens attitude and approach to fighting as being similar to Cain. He trains very hard and generally doesn't have too many bad things to say about his opponent. But whats seperates them is the fact Cain in the past has ran through people in the first and second rounds, while Ben hasn't had that type of success in the UFC.

Givin the time, and the right string of wins, I think anyone can be marketable.
cain is marketable, hes the 1st heavyweight mexican champion in ufc history and they can always bill him as the man that toppled the big bad dude Brock Lesnar + hes hispanic which is a market that the ufc is definitely pushing for. Benson on the other hand is generic, he doesnt have a personality or gimmick, his boring on the mic, and he doesnt finish fights. also his fighting style of grinding against the cage doesnt help. Hes not a ppv draw thus making him unmarketable.
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Imo, It is way too early to suggest that Ben Hendo "isn't marketable". Keep in mind, he's only been in the UFC for 1 and a half years, and only has two title defences. The key factor that has been the reason why he hasn't blown up yet, is the fact that has no finishes in the UFC.

Honestly, I think attitude has very little to do with how marketable you are as a fighter. Take Cain Velasquez for example. I see Bens attitude and approach to fighting as being similar to Cain. He trains very hard and generally doesn't have too many bad things to say about his opponent. But whats seperates them is the fact Cain in the past has ran through people in the first and second rounds, while Ben hasn't had that type of success in the UFC.

Givin the time, and the right string of wins, I think anyone can be marketable.
I agree with this, basically it's dominance that makes for popularity not trash talk.

The marketing types will keep looking for gimmicks that make people popular, but the fact remains that the only thing that sells in combat sports is badassery.

Wanderlei could barely speak English and he was the one of the biggest draws in MMA for a long time. Chuck was a pot bellied mohawked guy who never talked trash and barely spoke above a whisper and yet he was the UFC's biggest star, and sold far more PPVs than Couture with all his "Captain America" marketing shpiel. Fedor was a humble, backwoods, potbellied, balding Russian guy without a word of English to his name, yet at one point he was the GOAT of mma and it's biggest star ever, rejecting contracts for millions per fight.

GSP is as clean cut and non trash-talky as they get, and he is the current biggest draw. Jones is portrayed as "awkward in the press" and "too religious" etc., but he consistently sells huge numbers.

If Cain was only popular for being Mexican, why was JDS so popular? His first title defense sold 550K, even though it was against a replacement and heavy underdog in Frank Mir. It's because he effortlessly smashed the entire HW div that's why.

People watch this sport to find out who the baddest men on the planet are, period. Nothing else matters, no matter what tools like Sonnen or Diaz try to say to justify being tools. There might be some small marketing elements like Lesnar bringing in his WWE fanbase etc. but in the end it was because he too dominated the existing champs badly and he looked like Thor.

Bendo's problem is simply that he isn't dominant or dynamic enough in his actual fights. 2 close controversial decisions and one grindfest are all he has. The recent loss to Pettis and close fight with Cerrone just peg him as a "champion in passing" to casual fans rather than the "Man, no one can touch this guy!" vibe most of the other champs have.
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IMO the religion part is not that big of a deal, i was jus agreeing with the other poster. dont be so sensitive about it dude.
I wouldn't be so sensitive about it if you're weren't as well in the first place mate As for your triple-post (That's three posts in a row) please use the edit button to make a single post instead of three in a row. Thank you. Next time I will not merge your posts, I will simply delete them.

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Old 01-14-2013, 05:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You can hate on a fighter for a lot of different reasons, just don't make religion one of them. Thank you.
No offense, but that's up to me to decide, not you. And there's nothing wrong with that stance, either.

But he's marketable, for sure. Look at GSP. Plus there's the whole religious demographic, I suppose.

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No offense, but that's up to me to decide, not you. And there's nothing wrong with that stance, either.
I like Bendo the fighter but I'm not a fan of any form of religion. That doesn't mean I dislike Bendo because of it, I dislike his religion.

But yeah, wether you let it bother you or not is completely up to you
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:07 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:18 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I too would love a Russian Champ. Sambo is the best base for MMA by far.
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OWNS, feel free to disagree but please try to post well thought out posts rather than just images As for Pettis beating Hendo; Serra beat GSP, JDS beat Velasquez and Maynard beat Edgar
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I too would love a Russian Champ. Sambo is the best base for MMA by far.
I like it too and russians are the toughest people on the planet an ukraine have a claim too, hey budhi pettis changed the shape of bendos cheek bone for life with that kick
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