Who's going to predict this? I'm obviously a Gracie fan, but I think Matt is going to win this. I think he's a better all round fighter, and well, the UFC isn't what it was when Gracie ruled.
The way some of you tlk, you have never seen a Gracie fight. Matt will definitly be submited. I think Gracie may even stand up and fight his game for a bit. He nearly knocked out Hackney back in the day and that dude is pretty big. Gracie would rather get crippled in the ring as to tap out. No chance in hell he's taping out!!!
I don't really think that you can compare Hughes' grappling with Gracie though. Last I knew Gracie was a 4th degree BJJ. Matt's not even close. Actually I don't know that for sure, but I would think if he was a black belt (BJJ) of any degree, Bj Penn wouldn't have had his way so easily with him. It's gonna be a bad night for Hughes. Look at the way Gracie wraps people up. There isn't anyone with that boa constrictor (as they say) likeness about them.
The way some of you tlk, you have never seen a Gracie fight. Matt will definitly be submited. I think Gracie may even stand up and fight his game for a bit. He nearly knocked out Hackney back in the day and that dude is pretty big. Gracie would rather get crippled in the ring as to tap out. No chance in hell he's taping out!!!
Did you guys catch ufc unleashed last night on spike? It was all about Gracie. I forgot about some of those fights. Kimo weighed 250, Gracie was at 176. That's 74 pounds man. And don't think it was easy for Royce to take him down, but nontheless he did. Royce is going to make Hughes look retarded.
Kimo was a big roid freak who, after fighting Royce, proved one thing - he was a fuckin' can. Kimo never beat anyone of note, unless you consider Paul Varlens to be a former great...
Anyone here see Matt vs Carlos Newton? Beat Newton twice. Once the hard way, once the easy way. Newton is more agressive and dynamic a grappler than Royce currently is. Matt knows how to deal with a ground game specialist.
In the early years of the UFC evrybody stuck to their fighting style....karate judo boxing etc.
Nobody had ever seen Gracie Jujitsu, so for the first 3 UFC's Royce dominated.
When everybody started broadening their fighting to include ground fighting and wrestlers started studying striking it became what it is today.
Royce Gracie deserves all the respect in the world because if you recall in the beginning of the UFC there were no weight classes and he was submitting guys 30 or more lbs heavier than him.
If he was to beat Matt Hughes it would be because Hughes makes a really stupid mistake and even then he will probably take alot of punishment.
That was the one thing I never understood about Gracie Jujitsu I mean why would you lay there and let sonmeone beat the **** out of you. Look at their ears !!!!!
You know, everybody here is probably going to think I'm a total prick, but I can't believe the ridiculous statements you guys are making.
Hughes is a welterweight.
Rich Franklin is a middleweight.
Chuck is a light heavyweight.
Andrei Arvloski is a fuckin' heavyweight!!!
Matt might have a shot at Franklin, maybe. Against Chuck or Andrei he'd get his head removed. That's why they have weight classes. Good small guys, generally speaking, don't have a snowballs' chance in hell of beating good big guys in MMA anymore.
.... and you see how far Sumo got. Everybody has a punchers chance...everybody. You hit a guy just right and he's going down, no matter the weight or size. But I think we all know that, don't we?
As for this fight, it has my attention way more than even Chuck vs. Tito, and that one had everyones attention. I wouldn't dare to make a prediction either, because it all depends on who brings the most heart. And between these two there is no clear 'hands down' winner in that department.
Royce: experience.
Hughes: strength.
Like Matt said, if he can hit Royce square in the face, it will be a wake up call. If he doesn't do it hard enough though..... all he'll do is piss him off. Can't wait.
Kimo was a big roid freak who, after fighting Royce, proved one thing - he was a fuckin' can. Kimo never beat anyone of note, unless you consider Paul Varlens to be a former great...
Anyone here see Matt vs Carlos Newton? Beat Newton twice. Once the hard way, once the easy way. Newton is more agressive and dynamic a grappler than Royce currently is. Matt knows how to deal with a ground game specialist.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if Royce has kicked his striking skills up, it's going to be very tough for Matt. But, all it's going to take is one mistake from either of them. That's the best part. I can't freakin wait for this match.
I think that the fight is going to be simple as this if matt can keep royce standing then royce will lose the fight, however everbody and their uncle knows that ain't going to happen. So to get to the point of what i'am saying matt hughes has to make his punches count in order to win. On ah side note EVERYBODY talks like since royce left UFC that fighters have gone back to fighting the oldschool way, but that just ain't true royce is going to have an extremely hard time if he hasn't worked on his stand up.
You GOTTA respect Gracie, if you have any knowledge of mma at all. And Hughes IS damn good, no one can deny that. Personally, I think both of them are definitely past their best days, and don't see the big attraction...I'd rather see St Pierre fight Hughes asap. But since the brains at headquarters decided to try and soak everyone out of their money to watch this crap, I'll step out and make a prediction. Hughes is gonna KNOCK OUT Gracie in the FIRST ROUND. That's correct. And no, I'm NOT drunk. Check back to this AFTER May 27, and if I'm wrong I will gracefully apologize to all Gracie fans, okay? By the way, to start another thread here...does anyone out there actually believe Tim Sylvia could beat Fedor (the Pride champ)? Damn, I wish they'd get the chance, so I could make a pile of money on bets, that is if any Sylvia fans would actually put their money on that one! THAT Russian is the REAL heavyweight champ of the world, don't ya think? It'd definitely make for a good fight, though, since Sylvia would probably have no choice but to try and just stand with him.
I already put my money down a couple of weeks ago on Hughes. At that time he was a 2.86 - 1 favorite. Since that time he is now up to a 3.05 to 1 favorite, which means there has been a lot of money coming in on Hughes. For all you who are convinced of a Gracie win theres good odds on him. He is now a 2.75 -1 underdog, so for every dollar you bet you would make 2.75 if he wins. My take on the match is a KO by Hughes 2nd round.
Sorry to barge in here like this but does anybody know what the betting odds for this fight are? What is a good betting site?
BTW I think Matt has the edge over Gracie
one of royce's losses shouldn't count he beat kimo and could't fight in the next round of the tournament due to injury. That's not a loss. The other was a loss to sakuraba due to injury as well. so he really hasn't lost
I agree i'm picking royce. After seeing him beat akebono and watching his fight with Hidehiko Yoshida i've been very impressed. Hidehiko Yoshida went tge distance with wanderlie.
Hughes isn't amazing. Bj penn destroyed him in like 1 minute. Sean sherk went to a decission. Newton choked him out and when he fell he knocked out newton. He's not unbeatable. Gracie has never really lost. One loss was the second fight of a tounament. He was injured and didn't compete he didn't even fight. The other loss was to sakuraba and he quit due to a broken femeur at the 6 round. If you think hughes strength will overwelm royce look at the akebono fight you going to say hughe's is stronger then akebono.
He usually wears one so I don't see why he wouldn't. That is a win condition for Gracie, he will choke out Matt with his Gi. People keep talking about weight classes but doesn't Gracie out weigh Hughes by 10 pounds, Hughes is just 4 inches taller so he looks bigger.
My call - Gracie will tap. I've been following MMA for nearly 15 years and I can recall watching the original Gracie bouts in the early 90's. Gracie is skilled and rightfully honored as a key contributor to the development and popularity of MMA in the United States. However, he is past his peak and as much as I would like him to win (I respect Hughes' skill but find his personality grating after watching Ultimate Fighter 2) I think Hughes has the advantage of relative youth and more bouts under his belt.
I hope I'm wrong, but my money is on Hughes.
vbookie is fun and I will bet but does anyone know where I can wager real money on mma betting online with a sportsbook casino?
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