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Quinton Jackson 14 28.00%
Glover Teixeira 36 72.00%
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:09 PM   #161 (permalink)
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That's because Jones in altitude no less didn't look tired.

Glover was looking a little tired towards the end and yes it was a grueling pace, Rampage was throwing big shots and Glover was returning and landing way more of them, but I already knew Glover was an animal and Rampage was tough so I wasn't exactly surprised, Rampage has been done for years. But you seem awfully confident Glover can somehow keep one of the best wrestlers in MMA if not the best wrestler in MMA from dumping him on his head and cutting him open and will make it a "five round war" and considering Glover looked tired after a three round beating that he mostly administered I'm not exactly down to jump on that train.

No one is denying Glover dominated Rampage, but that's just it, he dominated Rampage, a guy who mentally checked out years ago.
"Jon Jones in altitude no less didn't look tired". No idea what any of this means.

And no, Glover didn't look to be tired at all. I wouldn't call quickly transitioning into the full mount and finishing the fight reigning down donkey kong GNP and ruthless elbows looking to be tired.

Glover was also much more active in the Fabio fight and didn't really tire or slow down much at all. His cardio is solid and proven, and there's not really any denying this.

You're also casually ignoring the fact that Glover is the ONLY fighter to ever manhandle Rampage in the grappling department and take him down at will. You literally can't say that about any other fighter out there, including Jon Jones. Even Jon struggled early on to secure take downs on Rampage. Rashad Evans struggled and had to work HARD with take downs on Rampage. Glover latched onto singles and dumped him onto his ass with ease, and that right there speaks volumes about this guys wrestling ability, but you just want to ignore this for what ever reason.

On top of the wrestling, his BJJ is excellent. His control n the ground and submission game is literally top tier stuff. Then on top of that he also has brutal ground and pound.

You say "all he did was dominate Rampage" as if that's some sort of easy thing to do. When was the last time Rampage was dominated in every facet of the game? Against Jon Jones none the less. Rashad sure as hell didn't dominate him, neither did Machida (the other top contenders in the LHW division). Not many fighters out there have the skill to dominate a fighter like Rampage, and you pass it off as if every contender out there is doing it to him.

Again, you can keep believing what ever it is you want, but come Jones/Glover time, Glover is going to really push Jon to his limits and give him a cracking fight.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:18 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Glover got tired? He was still taking Page down and landing more GnP than a lot of wrestlers do in a whole fight. He ended the fight on top with relentless GnP....

How does that mean he got tired? Does he have the best cardio in the division? No. But it is pretty decent. And it was pretty good last night when you see him pouring it on at the end of the 3rd round after a back and forth brawl getting hit by a power puncher.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:33 PM   #163 (permalink)
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Glover got tired? He was still taking Page down and landing more GnP than a lot of wrestlers do in a whole fight. He ended the fight on top with relentless GnP....

How does that mean he got tired? Does he have the best cardio in the division? No. But it is pretty decent. And it was pretty good last night when you see him pouring it on at the end of the 3rd round after a back and forth brawl getting hit by a power puncher.
Yeah he poured it on in the last 30 seconds but after the first round he slowed down considerably. Now is this a cardio issue...who knows but the same thing happened in the Maldonno fight. It hasn't even cost him a round yet so I doubt it's really that big of a deal.
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Old 01-27-2013, 04:42 PM   #164 (permalink)
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"Jon Jones in altitude no less didn't look tired". No idea what any of this means.

And no, Glover didn't look to be tired at all. I wouldn't call quickly transitioning into the full mount and finishing the fight reigning down donkey kong GNP and ruthless elbows looking to be tired.

Glover was also much more active in the Fabio fight and didn't really tire or slow down much at all. His cardio is solid and proven, and there's not really any denying this.

You're also casually ignoring the fact that Glover is the ONLY fighter to ever manhandle Rampage in the grappling department and take him down at will. You literally can't say that about any other fighter out there, including Jon Jones. Even Jon struggled early on to secure take downs on Rampage. Rashad Evans struggled and had to work HARD with take downs on Rampage. Glover latched onto singles and dumped him onto his ass with ease, and that right there speaks volumes about this guys wrestling ability, but you just want to ignore this for what ever reason.

On top of the wrestling, his BJJ is excellent. His control n the ground and submission game is literally top tier stuff. Then on top of that he also has brutal ground and pound.

You say "all he did was dominate Rampage" as if that's some sort of easy thing to do. When was the last time Rampage was dominated in every facet of the game? Against Jon Jones none the less. Rashad sure as hell didn't dominate him, neither did Machida (the other top contenders in the LHW division). Not many fighters out there have the skill to dominate a fighter like Rampage, and you pass it off as if every contender out there is doing it to him.

Again, you can keep believing what ever it is you want, but come Jones/Glover time, Glover is going to really push Jon to his limits and give him a cracking fight.
Well to address that altitude point, when you fight in altitude like Jones did against Rampage it's harder to get oxygen and Jones schooled Rampage with ease at altitude not looking tired once.

I'm not "casually overlooking" anything, Glover dominated him, he out grappled him, I agree with your points, where we come apart is the fact that I'm not impressed by the current day Rampage, you still seem to think Rampage is relevant in 2013 when that was probably the second worst Rampage I've ever seen behind the guy who fought Bader.

Glover wants to fight again so give him someone who can test his defensive wrestling in Bader or Davis.
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Well to address that altitude point, when you fight in altitude like Jones did against Rampage it's harder to get oxygen and Jones schooled Rampage with ease at altitude not looking tired once.

I'm not "casually overlooking" anything, Glover dominated him, he out grappled him, I agree with your points, where we come apart is the fact that I'm not impressed by the current day Rampage, you still seem to think Rampage is relevant in 2013 when that was probably the second worst Rampage I've ever seen behind the guy who fought Bader.

Glover wants to fight again so give him someone who can test his defensive wrestling in Bader or Davis.
What has Jones fighting Rampage at altitude got to do with any of this discussion? I said to you, when was the last time Rampage has been finished inside three rounds? And that Jon Jones couldn't finish Rampage within three rounds. You reply by saying Jon was fighting at altitude. So are you saying that because they fought at altitude this was the reason Jones didn't finish Rampage within three rounds?

Even an unmotivated Rampage is "relevant" to the LHW division. He's still a very tough fight for any top fighter in the LHW division, just ask your boy Lyoto Machida about that. He's no world beater any more, but he has fantastic defensive tools, an iron chin and very very solid over all grappling. He's one of three fighters to last past three rounds with Jon Jones, even as his unmotivated self.

Give him Bader, Rashad or Davis. He'll put a beating on either of them. Maybe after he beats one of those guys, you'll actually acknowledge this guys talent and potential.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:09 AM   #166 (permalink)
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I couldn't read anything else you said after "glass chin Rashad." Are you serious man?
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You're also casually ignoring the fact that Glover is the ONLY fighter to ever manhandle Rampage in the grappling department and take him down at will. You literally can't say that about any other fighter out there, including Jon Jones. Even Jon struggled early on to secure take downs on Rampage. Rashad Evans struggled and had to work HARD with take downs on Rampage. Glover latched onto singles and dumped him onto his ass with ease, and that right there speaks volumes about this guys wrestling ability, but you just want to ignore this for what ever reason.
To be fair, as far as I remember that wrestling dominance came into play after Jackson got dropped by a punch to the back of the head and stayed sort of wobbly after that.
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"back of the head" doesn't really count when your standing in front of a guy and you duck and roll.
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Yep, if the fighter moves his head in way that forces a legal punch to become a illegal punch you do not blame the attacker.

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I couldn't read anything else you said after "glass chin Rashad." Are you serious man?
Evans is chinny, no doubts there. He hides it well though.
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"back of the head" doesn't really count when your standing in front of a guy and you duck and roll.
I don't say it was intentionally or illegal in that case, but he got hit clean on the back of the head which dropped him and after that he was wobbly which made it much easier for Teixeira's TDs. It's just that it's hard to tell how good Teixeira's wrestling really is when Jackson lost part of his equilibrium after that shot.
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