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**El Bresko** · 01-23-2013, 04:04 AM

We use front kicks to the knee in Muay Thai and I don't think there are many major injuries because of it, but checking kicks is vital in MT otherwise you aren't going to be able to walk anyway.

**UFC_OWNS** · 01-23-2013, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by El Bresko

We use front kicks to the knee in Muay Thai and I don't think there are many major injuries because of it, but checking kicks is vital in MT otherwise you aren't going to be able to walk anyway.

yeah as do I from my muay thai instructor and spar partners, not that often but still sometimes usually they get checked or they aren't an issue

**SideWays222** · 01-23-2013, 04:27 AM

Sparring is pretty different from an actual fight. Though people go hard in practice it rarely simulates an actual fight where you feel like you are in danger if you dont defend yourself. Im sure kicks in practice dont have the same intention they have in a fight.

That said iv never fought in the octagon so i cant be certain. But i know in the gym i rarely get mad and have never wanted to cause any real damage to anyone.

**UFC_OWNS** · 01-23-2013, 04:28 AM

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Sparring is pretty different from an actual fight. Though people go hard in practice it rarely simulates an actual fight where you feel like you are in danger if you dont defend yourself.

im just talking about the supposebly terribly kicks to the knee and such

**SideWays222** · 01-23-2013, 04:31 AM

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im just talking about the supposebly terribly kicks to the knee and such

Me too.

**SmackyBear** · 01-23-2013, 05:17 AM

The link is dead now, but this is the published minutes from an ABC rules committee when they were discussing linear strikes to the knee:

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2. Discussion of Linear Strikes to the Knee Joint

Based on a letter from Nelson "Doc" Hamilton, the committee discussed this issue which seemed to garner attention due to UFC 97 and its Anderson Silva-Thales Leites fight. Profato opened by stating that he thought linear strikes to the knee joint should be banned and Mazzulli agreed. Foster stated that contestants skill levels are progressing annually and that we need to protect the contestants.

Lembo suggested that this maneuver be banned in the amateurs, but allowed in the pro ranks. Lembo stated that this type of kick is difficult to land and is able to be defended by checking or movement. Lembo stated that kicks to the side of the knee joint seem to cause worse injuries. Lembo added that we allow strikes to the head and eyes which could cause worse injuries.

Dr. Wulkan stated that from a purely medical standpoint, kicks to the side of the knee joint while the leg is planted are more dangerous and could cause worse injuries. Dr. Wulkan stated that the leg usually must be straight, not bent to increase more serious injury risk from linear knee joint strikes. Dr. Wulkan stated that other types of kicks can be thrown with more power and cause more damage.

Erickson asked what combative sports disallow this maneuver. It was noted that these kicks are not allowed in kick boxing but that is due to the fact that kicks below the waist are not allowed.

Kizer stated that there are ways to defend this offensive technique which occurs directly in front of the competitor. Kizer read from a statement from a NAC consulting orthopedic physician who stated that he did not see the need to ban this technique and saw other allowable techniques which could be more damaging from an injury standpoint.

Foster stated that Anderson Silva is an anomaly. Foster stated there is not enough data on this rarely utilized technique. Kizer reminded that each Commission can require more restrictive rules if desired and Foster stressed the need for uniformity. The Committee unanimously agreed that it be suggested that linear strikes to the knee joint be banned in the amateurs but remain unchanged at this point in time in the pros.

Two doctors, one an orthopedist, said it wasn't especially dangerous.

It also doesn't seem to have a history of insane knee destruction in striking arts where it's legal.

**SideWays222** · 01-23-2013, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmackyBear

The link is dead now, but this is the published minutes from an ABC rules committee when they were discussing linear strikes to the knee:

Two doctors, one an orthopedist, said it wasn't especially dangerous.

It also doesn't seem to have a history of insane knee destruction in striking arts where it's legal.

Thats interesting.

Well i cant argue with doctors.

GoodfellaGr · 01-23-2013, 11:52 AM

so his slam at Arona wasn't a carrer ending attack? The problem is that Rampage doesn't like the sport anymore and he finds holes everywhere.. Even if i agree to his point, i disagree to the reason he says what he says..

**Purgetheweak** · 01-23-2013, 12:36 PM

This is a goddamn combat sport! We should be allowing more rules, not getting rid of them. People just use this as an excuse to further hate on Jones. Cut the bullshit and just admit that you wouldn't like him no matter how "clean" he fought.

**hadoq** · 01-23-2013, 02:36 PM

if you don't want to get hurt, don't do combat sports, period.

this isn't ballet dancing or knitting

you could potentially kill someone with a strike to the head (or repeated strikes), you could kill someone with a choke, you could kill or seriously hurt someone with pretty much everything that gets thrown in that cage. I call BS.

I don't see any boxers whining about repeated shots to the head, even tho most of them end up with SERIOUS life changing traumas that completely screw their life after they retire.

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