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Rampage Jackson says Jon Jones' oblique kick should be banned from UFC

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#1 ·
Rampage Jackson says Jon Jones' oblique kick should be banned from UFC competition

By Jesse Holland on Jan 22, 11:40a 152



After doing the dance with UFC light heavyweight kingpin Jon Jones, former opponent, Rampage Jackson, knows the dangers of the champ's oblique kick, which he believes should be called the "illegal kick." here's why.


Ever give one of your buddies a dead-leg? Funny, right? Now do the same thing, only from the other side. Not so funny.

Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Light Heavyweight Champion Jon Jones uses a push-kick to the knee, the "oblique kick," as a way to keep his opponents in range. Too far for them, but just right for him and his 147-inch reach.

There's only one problem.

Past opponents like Quinton Jackson are unhappy with the technique, which unsurprisingly carries the potential for serious injury to the knee, one of the most fragile parts of the body when exposed to the rigors of mixed martial arts (MMA) training and competition.

"Rampage" explains to ESPN:


"It should be called the illegal kick. It should be banned and it shows a lot about the fighter's character that he would throw it. How would he like it if somebody threw it at him and stopped him working for a year? I thought it was an illegal move. I think spinning elbows should be illegal too because they land on the back of the head. But I appreciate a good fight, a good scrap, I just wonder which rule fighters will bend next."

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/1/22/15...banned-ufc-mma
 
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#5 ·
I completely agree Rampage here. Attempting to hyper extend someones knee could be career ending. Knees are serious, serious business for athletes. They even made a rule in the NFL now you can't hit Quarterbacks in the knee. That's the money maker right there and those are career ending injuries.

It's not the same as a knee bar where you can tap out. This is a strike that happens instantly.

EDIT: This should NOT be legal.
 
#6 ·
Is Rampage ever going to do another interesting interview? So bored of his bitching. Where's Rashad to call him out on his shit when you actually need him?

As for the kick, it probably is dangerous, but I think guys should find a way to defend against it instead of moaning about it.
 
#13 ·
Why do people act like Jones is the only one who does this?





Anderson did it to Cote too I think, Condit also does it quite a bit, I remember he landed one on Hardy.
 
#9 ·
Agreed - it should fall into the same category as "Small Joint Manipulation" for thaty same reason – there’s no opportunity to tap before snap…

However, I do wish that Jackson could make a point without sounding like a whiney beach. He makes a good point, but I almost don't care because of his bitching and moaning.

The last time that Jackson said anything worth listening to was in the post fight interview of him vs. Jones... He should go back and watch that interview again, while he's at it, review the end of the fight and pay particular attention to his own eyes immediately after the referee ends the fight... he looked like a terrified school kid who wants his mommy to make the big bad boy stop picking on him...

Thank goodness after this weekend he’s done in the UFC
 
#18 ·
I'm not really against it, although it's a load of shit for Rampage of all people to be worried about fighter safety when he knocked Wanderlei clean out and then followed up with two or three more good ones on him when he was down and out. I just don't like how people always point at Jones for using it when Anderson was using it way before Jon was.
 
#22 ·
I remember when Anderson first started throwing it and I thought he's gonna be tearing ligaments and ruining careers, but I've seen it land pretty hard from a number of guys, and I don't recall it coming close to ending a fight.

Any big K1 guy's see this strike end a fight where it may be more commonly thrown?
 
#26 ·
I don't mind the technique. Don't fight if you don't want to get hurt? Or don't lock your knees and learn a little footwork? Page of all people should be quite about fighting dirty. As Lyotolegion pointed out, the dude hit Wand several times when he was out cold while the ref was pushing him off just to make his frail ego feel better. He should be thankful Wanderlei didn't stomp his head open the two times they fought in Pride. Rampage Jackson will forever be in my top ten but this butt-hurt at everything attitude he has is older than his title aspirations...
 
#28 ·
Their are allot of fighters in the the UFC who use this technique besides Jones. I know Silva, Vera, Condit, Diaz, are just a few I've seen throw these kicks and I agree they are cheap shots.

I think I feel this way because I have personally have had knee surgery twice, so I know what it's like to blow out your knee.
 
#29 ·
I've seen others use it but Jones uses it all the time to keep people at range. Like another poster said, the moment a top earner gets sidelined by an injury like that, it will be banned.

Why wait, ban it now.

Jon Jones, he's the dirtiest fighter out there, but manages to stay with in the rules.

Deliberately intimidates fighters from moving in by holding his fingers out - Check
Kicks aimed at hyper-extension - Check
Elbows thrown to rip a persons skin apart - Check
 
#30 ·
Whatever you think of Rampage nowadays, he is absolutely right. It's dangerous as shit and the number one thing that fighters may lose their livelyhood if it connects bad enough. It's not exciting, flashy or spectacular, just dirty and cringeworthy. Ban ban ban.
 
#32 ·
I remember how i once made a thread saying that the move should be illegal. People were comparing it to a knee bar which is completely nonsense. When you are in a submission you have a chance to tap and prevent any damage. When someone kicks your knee backwards you dont have a chance to tap.

But ofcourse everyone ganged up on me and disagreed.

Im surprised their not here now....
 
#39 ·
No one cared when Anderson did it. It was his thing for a little while there.

It's kind of a douche bag thing to do but hey it's legal and it helps Jones gain a bigger advantage with his reach. Do that kick forces his opponents to stand more upright limiting the distance they can move quickly, where as if they were crouched legs in an athletic stance it would be much easier to counter and close distance. It's really a very intelligent a strategy.

This would kind of be like making low ankle picks illegal because you can buckle the guys knee and far worse than with that kick. I understand the intention is not the same but how could you enforce the rule? Anything that strikes the knee illegal but they allow striking with the knee. So what attacking the front of the knee? Well then you run into what was he trying to do? Make front kicks illegal? It's just too hard to enforce.

All though now that I think about it, I thought you were not allowed to strike joints? Isn't the knee a joint?

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