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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 01-24-2013, 01:34 PM
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I would take Vitor if he could end it in the 1st or 2nd round, if went to 3 or more I would start leaning more towards Shogun, but I think Vitor could win quick, I'd say 65% for Belfort winning.
Why would the fight going longer mean Shogun has the better chance of winning? Shogun's cardio isn't spectacular or anything and comparing their striking lately, Vitor appears to have that advantage. I think if Shogun doesn't end Vitor in round 1, Vitor wins.


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People are basing Shogun's so called 'late recovery' because of his fight with Dan Henderson where he staged a comeback. The fact remains, he only got the better of Henderson because Henderson is 41 and tired himself out from killing Shogun for the first 3 rounds. Shogun is a joke.
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well a motivated vitor wouldn't beat a healthy shogun.

but we all know how those match ups turn out.

I got shogun winning late TKO or decision

that said, Vitor looked really good and improved against Bisping, that vitor punishes shogun anyday. but he doesn't always show up.
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in a 5 round fight, the first 3 rounds will be Vitor putting down a beating. The last two rounds Shogun will come back to finish him.

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One of Shogun's deadliest weapons is his kicks. His busted knees don't allow him to do it no more and now he is just a gassing mortal. Sad.

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One of Shogun's deadliest weapons is his kicks. His busted knees don't allow him to do it no more and now he is just a gassing mortal. Sad.
For whatever reason, Shogun goes into brawl mode about 2 minutes into the fight or when he starts getting hit, whichever happens first. He stops throwing kicks and just wings punches at the head for the rest of the fight.

Against the new, smarter, and more patient Vitor he's going to lose unless he fights smart himself. Which means...kick the shit out of Vitor's legs and body. Vitor still doesn't have the great footwork by any means and even Bisping had a lot of success with leg kicks against him. Bisping was usually able to get his lead foot to the outside of Belfort's to get the dominant angle for his strikes, and by getting to the outside it moves him away from Vitor's left straight.

Shogun can do the same to really load up & step into his leg & body kicks, once Vitor eats a few of those he's going to have a massive gimp which takes away his ability to blitz with punches. Kicks to the body will keep Vitor guessing as well as take away his cardio when they land. In short, it's the same gameplan that Shogun used against another southpaw with fast hands; Machida. Once Vitor's nice & worried about the low & body kicks, then it's time to go high and try for a KO, then go back down low if it doesn't work. Rinse & repeat till the fight's over.
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If Rua wants to win that fight he better fight Belfort next.

On a serious note, Belfort is probably gonna drop Shogun 3~4 times in that fight. Might even get a TKO victory.

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If Rua wants to win that fight he better fight Belfort next.
But even more importantly, he needs to have the fight outside the US. Shogun has won every UFC fight outside the US, and they were all TKO wins, while he's 1-5 in the US.
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man ... i love both of them ... they are two of my favourite fightes ... so on one side i dont want to see them fight ... but on the other side, it would be a great fight!

I cant decide for who am i rooting for.
But i think shogun would win a close desicion
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