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Khabib is extremely unproven and Cerrone would lay a beating on Grant, Lauzon, and Miller.
Lauzon's a good fight, Miller kicks his ass and Grant knocks him out. Cerrone maybe 2-2 his last 4 but he came within a fly's hair of being 1-3. I think Diaz took his soul and he loses to 80% of the top 20 right now.

Khabib is 19-0, I don't know how "unproven" you can be on a 19 fight win streak.
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Lauzon's a good fight, Miller kicks his ass and Grant knocks him out. Cerrone maybe 2-2 his last 4 but he came within a fly's hair of being 1-3. I think Diaz took his soul and he loses to 80% of the top 20 right now.

Khabib is 19-0, I don't know how "unproven" you can be on a 19 fight win streak.
Diaz did not take his soul, he beat the living hell out of Stephens got careless against Guillard and rebounded to knock him out and then he got stopped against Pettis who may be the best guy in the division. Cerrone is certainly better than Lauzon and Miller.

Khabib may be 19-0 but who has he fought? Tavares? Shane Roller knocked out Tavares too, many felt he lost to Tibau and he beat up Shalarous. He is extremely unproven against top fighters.

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Khabib is extremely unproven and Cerrone would lay a beating on Grant, Lauzon, and Miller.
I disagree completely. Cerrone is not that great IMO. I thought it was very strange the odds were so close vs Pettis. He would get destroyed by this version of Bendo and Nate dominated him. I don't think he can hang with the top guys and I think Jim Miller is clearly better. The other guys would give Cowboy a hell of a fight. Joe and Cowboy are pretty equal I guess but Cowboy might be a better version of Joe, but not much.
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Diaz did not take his soul, he beat the living hell out of Stephens got careless against Guillard and rebounded to knock him out and then he got stopped against Pettis who may be the best guy in the division. Cerrone is certainly better than Lauzon and Miller.

Khabib may be 19-0 but who has he fought? Tavares? Shane Roller knocked out Tavares too, many felt he lost to Tibau and he beat up Shalarous. He is extremely unproven against top fighters.
Look the only person who thought Tibau won that fight was Rogan who couldn't deal with Khabib shutdown wrestling. And Shane Roller also beat Donald Cerrone's biggest win Jamie Varner(who he also lost to). And while we may not know who these Russians are you look at how this prospect class of Russians have done this year.

Alexander Volkov - Bellator HW champion
Andrey Koreshkov - tournament winner
Rustam Khabilov - explosive UFC debut
Alexander Sarnavskiy - pretty hot prospect
Shahbulat Shamhalaev (whose only lost was to Khabib) - FW finalist in Bellator.

I can see one or two guys being a coincidence but 6 breakout stars this year from Russia doesn't lead me to believe that these are can crushing leagues. And Khabib's record is better than all of them.
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I'm conflicted. Miller is my guy but TJ lives 15 minutes away from me and I've been watching him his whole career. :\ Hope they make a different matchup!
We must be neighbors. I say T.J Vs. Sydney Crosby.
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I think T.J can take Miller but Lauzon or Nate Diaz would be the more entertaining fight.
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Varner never beat Cerrone. He wilted and took a coward's way out after being hit by a LEGAL knee which the ref thought was illegal. The acting job afterwards was pretty obvious.




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Grant would beat Miller in every area. I hope the fight happens so I can bet on him.

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Khabib is extremely unproven and Cerrone would lay a beating on Grant, Lauzon, and Miller.
I think your extremely overrating Cerrone who has dropped 2 of his last 4 and did so in devastating fashion both times.




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Grant looked good against Wiman, but I think Miller takes his lunch money and sends him to the back of the line. Miller has only ever lost to top five guys. Looking good against a med level guy like Wiman is a lot easier then looking good against a perennial top five guy. Still, I wouldnt mind seeing ole jimmy put it to him and on the off chance he pulled out the huge upset, it would throw a new contender into the mix.
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He deserves it. Grant's win a few nights ago showed that he's definitely a top 10 MMA LW, something which, at least in my opinion, cannot be said anymore about Jim Miller. I think Grant takes it if this fight happens because he's been an absolute animal since leaving the WW division, combo-d with the fact that Miller has been on the decline.

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