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post #91 of 109 (permalink) Old 01-30-2013, 12:52 PM
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Again, no.


Henry Cejudo wrestled in the lowest weight in the Olympics which is 121 and was a projected flyweight. Cutting 6 more lbs for these guys would damn near kill them. Cejudo could barely make 121 after his first Olympics.

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I know these guys do not actually weigh 115 lbs. I mentioned in my post as these guys WEIGHING IN at 115lbs. I don't have any idea how much guys weighing this little should cut while staying healthy, but I presume around 5~10 lbs? These guys can easily fight in the flyweight division by not cutting weight or bulking up a little more and cutting a few pounds. Really no need to add an additional weight class. The strawweights can definitely help add depth to the flyweight division, which is in need of some help.


That's another thing. They aren't super athletic explosive guys like you saw last week with Dodson and Johnson.

Coming from someone who has actually seen Strawweight fights, they are basically just like malnourished Japanese guys and a few very small east Asians.

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Ok, I'm sorry then for my assumption. I do disagree that we can't have a full strawweight division with high level fighters still. We have Olympic and Division 1 wrestlers that could make the 115lbs limit and other athletes in other sports as well. I simply disagree that we can't have top level athletes at that weight.
I didn't say we couldn't but there will be far less of them. Not enough to support a full UFC level division.

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I think this has pretty much been beaten to death. Some of us think that there is enough talent and some of think there never will be a big enough pool to get said talent from, similar to super heavyweight.


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I hate the mentality of I can't watch a smaller man fight "cause I so much bigger". Just implies you have no appreciation for skill, technique, hard work and the sport.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but saying that I have no appreciation for skill, technique, hard work and the sport is just silly. The lower weight classes just aren't exciting to me like women's olympic gymnastics are not exciting to me. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate the sport, it just means its not my thing.

My favorite boxers and MMA fighters are the most technical guys out there. Sometimes that even makes for a "boring" or "safe" fight in lots of fans minds. I don't expect everyone to like how GSP fights, just like you shouldn't expect me to enjoy women's olympic gymnastics. Not everyone likes the same thing and that's fine to me. Pointing a finger saying someone doesn't appreciate something because you don't share the opinion is just grand standing at least in my mind.

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion but saying that I have no appreciation for skill, technique, hard work and the sport is just silly. The lower weight classes just aren't exciting to me like women's olympic gymnastics are not exciting to me. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate the sport, it just means its not my thing.

My favorite boxers and MMA fighters are the most technical guys out there. Sometimes that even makes for a "boring" or "safe" fight in lots of fans minds. I don't expect everyone to like how GSP fights, just like you shouldn't expect me to enjoy women's olympic gymnastics. Not everyone likes the same thing and that's fine to me. Pointing a finger saying someone doesn't appreciate something because you don't share the opinion is just grand standing at least in my mind.
Again, for like the 5th time today. I'm sorry I went overboard yesterday and I apologize for saying things like "you aren't a true fan" or "you don't enjoy/appreciate". I went to far and I apologize. I'm sure you are fan or you wouldn't be here. I went too far, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Sorry if I offended you.
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Again, for like the 5th time today. I'm sorry I went overboard yesterday and I apologize for saying things like "you aren't a true fan" or "you don't enjoy/appreciate". I went to far and I apologize. I'm sure you are fan or you wouldn't be here. I went too far, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Sorry if I offended you.
I honestly hadn't read the whole thread and just read your response and no further. Sorry to kick you while you were down, that wasn't my intention.

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I honestly hadn't read the whole thread and just read your response and no further. Sorry to kick you while you were down, that wasn't my intention.
No problem, it's all good. I realize I get a little out there sometimes and I could use a kick in the ass from time to time. It was definitely wrong of me to attack other fans and their enjoyment of the sport. We are all fans here.
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No problem, it's all good. I realize I get a little out there sometimes and I could use a kick in the ass from time to time. It was definitely wrong of me to attack other fans and their enjoyment of the sport. We are all fans here.
You're obviously passionate about MMA, and that's awesome we need more posters like that on MMAF. Like you said, you just get a little uptight on certain topics like this one sometimes. It happens and I do see your point. I just think a 115lb division can never be nearly as stacked as 145/155 for instance. I don't doubt there are some 115lb guys who have skill, but right now there just isn't a huge demand for it and it wouldn't be a very deep division anytime soon.

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How bout bringin a super heavy weight class into the mix? I think there would be a lot more potential for some intense fights at 265+
Yes we might see some freakshows, but I'm with the others that have mentioned they need to let the other lighter weight divisions fill out a little more.
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This is absurd. Straweight??? 125lbs? That's less than 50 kilos. I don't like this. What's next, Cancerweight? Only preteens would be able to fight at these weights.

The featherweight division is my limit.
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