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post #21 of 109 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 05:19 PM
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See it's people like you that Dana is referring to. I have a hard time not responding like an asshole to people as ignorant as you. You are not a true fan IMO.

EDIT: Next year Liza gets my vote for every category. True MMA fan right there.
Alright calm down Scooter, this is an MMA forum. There's been quite a long list of evidence to suggest that most MMA fans aren't even sports fans and most aren't the brightest bulbs around.

But yes it does get to a point where the fighters they are putting in the ring aren't appealing. Minimum weight fighters are not impressing anyone.



Although I always find it funny when people are like "Oh man Im bigger than these guys I'd totally beat them up!"

Like Nam Phan isn't a whole 1 inch taller than a guy like Ian McCall and just goes on Youtube slapping up on fat forum dweller types.

No, you aren't beating up a flyweight unless you are a 200lb athlete trained in combat.



What's next, people are going to scoff every time Trindon Holliday scores a touchdown because he's 5'5 160?

Man look at this guy he's so small I'd hit stick him like I do in Madden!


Said keyboard warriors everywhere while he runs right past you and causes you to have an asthmatic attack.


It's funny too because it seems like it's strictly a skinhead tattoo sporting MMA fan thing and not really a sports thing with the whole size infatutation. Because in boxing no one even watches the heavier weights.

The only weights that are popular are between 124 and 147 and some occasional 160 and 168 bouts.

The most hyped American prospect right now is a 135lber and the second most hyped a 127lber.

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I dont think the fighters need to be any smaller or any bigger than they are now, just leave the divisions as is, no strawweights or super heavyweights.
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Just like with all weight classes that have been added, even back to when the UFC brought back the LW division there are always guys fighting out of place, meaning not in their optimal weight classes. There are guys all over the world fighting at fly that could make straw and if the UFC added the division they would then have a reason to make the move. Happens every time. WW dropped to LW, LWs dropped to FW, FWs dropped to BW, BWs dropped to fly, Flys will drop to straw. Put the right letters on the gloves and it's amazing how public perception changes. "Cans" or nobodies all the sudden get super powers and turn into legit fighters in public eyes because of 3 small letters. It's magic.
Those weight classes filled because there are a large amount of male human beings between the heights of 5'6 and 5'10.

In fact the overwhelming majority of them.


The same does not apply to 5'1 115lbers. This is why there is no Super Heavyweight division, because there are only a handful of men that are legitimate super heavyweights and most of them are in the NBA. You'd literally just be filling a division with the morbidly obese.

In fact I don't see anyone currently fighting at Fly that could make that weight outside of maybe guys like Useless Gomez. And he would probably win a title and it would be stupid because he's clearly not that good.

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Would love a strawweight division, but I need the UFC to seriously boost the flyweight division before even considering it. Baby steps Zuffa.

Smaller fighters are awesome though
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I dont think the fighters need to be any smaller or any bigger than they are now, just leave the divisions as is, no strawweights or super heavyweights.
Agree totally.

Strawweights are basically Asian MMA freakshow fodder along with Super Hulk and all that bullshit.


I have no idea why ZUFFA brass are clamouring for this. At least with Flyweight there was a clear emerging scene, especially stateside which is arguably the most important factor for a division...and not to mention it isn't hard to imagine a future of talented 125lb fighters considering the precedent seen in other sports like boxing. (Pacquiao, Marquez, Salvador Sanchez, Pep, etc)



The only thing I recall about the 110s in boxing is Finito beating up on a bunch of no-hopers and no one caring.


Oh and Ivan Calderon.

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Those weight classes filled because there are a large amount of male human beings between the heights of 5'6 and 5'10.

In fact the overwhelming majority of them.


The same does not apply to 5'1 115lbers. This is why there is no Super Heavyweight division, because there are only a handful of men that are legitimate super heavyweights and most of them are in the NBA. You'd literally just be filling a division with the morbidly obese.

In fact I don't see anyone currently fighting at Fly that could make that weight outside of maybe guys like Useless Gomez. And he would probably win a title and it would be stupid because he's clearly not that good.
Useless is a very talented fighter that had a disappointing debut. IMO he can be a top 10 fly very soon. Talented fighter though.
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No not really, hes not that good. Clearly gatekeeper fodder. That said I don't even think he could make 115 considering he's fought at BW recently and he's 5'6.



Not sure if you realize this but you do realize that the less weight you are dealing with the harder it is to cut weight right?


The amount of 35s that had the ability to cut to Fly was relatively small and was basically only the guys who were obviously dwarfed in every fight like Cariaso, Dodson, Joe B and Mighty Mouse. These guys are about 5'4 on average and were in a division that is full of 5'7ish fighters.


We haven't seen many guys making the drop to Fly and likely won't any time soon.

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Not sure why theres hate here. Obviously outside the fact the UFC needs to strengthen the flyweight division before making any division additions, adding strawweight would be so exciting! Just think, ultimately more cards and more superfights! It gives super tiny dudes a chance to showcase their skill. Yeah, there wont be a lot of finishes but imagine how freaking fast these dudes will go? Thats exciting to me! The sport is young too so just give it some time until you have some guys who can bring some power into these low weight divisions much like newer HW's bringing in speed to accompany their power recently.
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No not really, hes not that good. Clearly gatekeeper fodder. That said I don't even think he could make 115 considering he's fought at BW recently and he's 5'6.
Disagree, closer to a title contender then a gate keeper. Talented fight, no doubt about it though.
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Not sure why theres hate here. Obviously outside the fact the UFC needs to strengthen the flyweight division before making any division additions, adding strawweight would be so exciting! Just think, ultimarely more cards and more superfights! It gives super tiny dudes a chance to showcase their skill. Yeah, there wont be a lot of finishes but imagine how freaking fast these dudes will go? Thats exciting to me! The sport is young too so just give it some time until you have some guys who can bring some power into these low weight divisions much like newer HW's bringing in speed to accompany their power recently.
Yeah all the superfights between Rambaa Samdet and....


o wait



The funniest thing about it is that Rambaa has already beaten almost every other top strawweight worth a damn(see almost none of them)


Rambaa just needs to leave that joke of a division and sign to the UFC's flyweight division. We already know he's better than Useless. So he need not be tested against gatekeeper types.

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